Forza World Podcast - A Forza Horizon Podcast

Squirrels, Beers, and PT Cruisers

May 29, 2022 Jason McArthur, Aren Glover Episode 2
Forza World Podcast - A Forza Horizon Podcast
Squirrels, Beers, and PT Cruisers
Show Notes Transcript

On this episode, the boys get off-topic immediately with some complaints about squirrels (they stink). We recap our time at Porsche of London Cars & Coffee, which had some incredible variety. The F8 Tributo is now available for unlock in Forza Horizon 5, but Aren has a very fair bone to pick as far as the limited and lame colour options available in-game. This leads to some interesting discussion about what limitations might exist for the developers, as well as some limitations and quirks about Ferrari. We chat about the exciting news that Lamborghini is entering the LMDh class in FIA WEC and IMSA and what it means for the sport. We finish the show talking about Jason's back sweat. Kick back, relax, and enjoy episode 2 of the Forza World Podcast. 

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Speaker 1
Walking on a tree. I'll be back.

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Speaker 2
Welcome everyone to episode two of the For the World podcast. We are here. The sun is shining. It's not super warm today but it's decent.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, it's not bad. The sunshine bears the chirping, everything's chirping, everything's making sounds, squirrels everywhere, skin stuff I like it. Some cereals. I don't like squirrels. The schools are stupid. I don't like them chipmunks.

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Speaker 2
I'm fine with the squirrel. I don't know.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, probably like landscape wise, they're both just as much of a nuisance. Yeah, but I equally know I should have such relatively chipmunks a little bit better. Yeah, better squirrels suck.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. Girls are just overly aggressive for no reason.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. And they dig up your lawn, and they're just. I don't know, they're just like tree rats. That's what's. Oh, they are tree rat rats. Oh, my grandpa calls them roof rats, actually. Oh, of course.

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Speaker 2
This is very off topic. All right. Episode two.

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Speaker 3
Was a car podcast.

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Speaker 2
By the way.

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Speaker 3
Squirrels invented.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. So tonight we talk about squirrels.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. And you know what? It is true, though. The weather's awesome. We have some beers here. We have some beers here in this podcast because it was something we talked about last week. You know, I'm excited to try. It was the right. Yeah. Like, what's our favorite? Just like standard. Go to beer and both of us are stupid.

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Speaker 3
We don't really have one because we have, like, a lot of beer. So I have brought alcoholics. No, we're not. Nor. No, I've got a grolsch and Stella Artois.

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Speaker 2
That sounds like a German star.

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Speaker 3
Of your show here. Have you ever had a roast? No. Very good. So the bottle you can see on the can, it's no shot.

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Speaker 2
Of the bottle. You can see on the cans.

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Speaker 3
So they've got, like this iconic bottle design where it's kind of like this pop to the metal thing flipped.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 3
So this is a can. Of course. It's very hard to get the bottles in Canada. Yes, but I quite like Grolsch and.

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Speaker 2
This just got a whole bunch of Russian on it. No, it doesn't, does it. It does. Brewed and canned by.

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Speaker 3
I see.

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Speaker 2
I see so much. You have another one.

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Speaker 3
I do.

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Speaker 2
There's a lot.

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Speaker 3
Of there's oh there is.

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Speaker 2
Russian there's a lot of Russian.

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Speaker 3
There's, there's it's not a Russian beer. I don't think it's I.

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Speaker 2
Think I think it's.

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Speaker 3
It's out of the UK. I swear.

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Speaker 2
Is it. I don't.

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Speaker 3
Know. No, it's German on the label on the can. Looks like a part for my car. Very nice and sharp swing. So yeah, that's definitely German. Anyways, this was very good. This is a good Karpov. This is a great podcast. We've done everything separate SA Picasso. I'm going to crack a beer. I think you're going to crack that.

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Speaker 3
I'm going to crack this.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 3
We'll get into it. Like, I mean, beverage related cars and coffee. Yeah, we were in London, Ontario, not the second best London and.

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Speaker 2
The only second London.

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Speaker 3
I'm sure there's other like similarly poverty London's. But this is definitely the second best.

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Speaker 2
It's definitely a poverty.

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Speaker 3
It's a good it's a good sized city and you can see that by the turnout in the cars and the coffee because it was so crazy. We've got posts up and we were you know, we had a that it did really well people were really fired up to see what was there like a lot of really rare cars.

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Speaker 3
CORERA Getty heard of it. That was just casually there.

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Speaker 2
There's a 356 600 super there was a Vesuvio metallic 964.

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Speaker 3
What was that. Lamborghini the blue one.

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Speaker 2
Oh, super, super Trofeo Studio Stradale. It was the road version of the super fail.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. There was a really nice McLaren.

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Speaker 2
There were a couple really nice mclarens.

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Speaker 3
Was there a long tail.

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Speaker 2
No, no, no, no. There was a 680. Yes there was two six fifties. One was a spider, one was a coupe. There was the Thai entry in Siberia. Yeah. A manual transmission, which was insane.

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Speaker 3
1 to 1 of three. One, three one is three nanas.

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Speaker 2
They it's an old client, it's a 2010 client. So it's not the best looking. It's SUV.

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Speaker 3
Yes, it is. It is.

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Speaker 2
But it's one of three with a manual transmission in the trans Siberia, which is a really cool version of of a client. If I was to buy that generation, can I buy a transporter? Yeah.

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Speaker 3
What was cool about that show, too, was you had a lot of the rare Porsche stuff.

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Speaker 2
Yep.

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Speaker 3
Not one paint sample paint. A other Porsche was really cool. Um, but it sold. Yeah, I saw. That was awesome. But there was a challenge to Dolly, which I quite like. There is a sweet f430 there was also.

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Speaker 2
There's a 3 to 8 GT Yes, yes, there's a three, four, eight.

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Speaker 3
Everything is Bentley speed.

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Speaker 2
Bentley speed. Yeah. While there was quite a few like Cayman Gt4, Boxster spiders.

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Speaker 3
Oh, but.

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Speaker 2
Next there were.

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Speaker 3
Two G2, which is also crazy. Yeah, not many of those.

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Speaker 2
There was a car. There was a seat for Blackwing, there.

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Speaker 3
Was 585. And it's really there is a sick you know what there was actually we'll put this audio on top of some pictures and put this make sure put this on Instagram. Yes, there was an unbelievable Dodge Charger there and it was like late sixties, I want to say 68. 69 charger. Yeah. And had the entire interior swapped out with a modern challenger Hellcat.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, it's really cool. So it was, you know, the old shell, but a brand new interior. So you get an apple, carplay and everything in the new seats. Yeah. And it just looked bad.

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Speaker 2
So wicked. The Hellcat motor in it too. Yeah.

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Speaker 3
And it sounded just crazy pulling out. But yeah, it was a really unique, neat car to see it. A Porsche, cars and coffee, considering everything else that was there was exotic.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. Or just a track oriented performance car.

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Speaker 3
It was just. Yeah, everything was just nice. Straight up. Like you had that caddy like that. Oh, oh, loud and bang and caddy. It had a hydraulic drop bouncing up and down. That was Doggy Dogg. It was awesome. It was it was just a really good time. So we were happy to be there. It sounds like their last year, I think they only had two this year they're going to do one a month, which is pretty cool.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, that's the time.

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Speaker 2
It's coming up in June.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. So we're going to be there. I'm probably going to take my car. There actually was an addition. One C63. Yeah, the 2012, that was also a car and coffee. So I was like, you know what? I probably remind them if that's their right, it was probably mine, so it'll be cool. Next time we'll have a horse in the race and we'll get some more pictures.

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Speaker 3
Yeah and yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2
You'll see us down there will be life will be we'll be there will be showing everything that's there. It'll be very similar. Yeah. Good cars and coffee. Good, good general experience. Moving on. This has nothing to do with the cars and coffee whatsoever. The F8 Tributo is now available for unlock in Horizon five.

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Speaker 3
And looks like it will say no. It looks so good that.

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Speaker 2
It's a very, very good looking car. Yeah, I, I personally in my opinion, I know the four or five eight looks better.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, I agree. I think most people would agree with that. I think this looks better than the 48. Yeah, it's like a cooler looking version of it because it was kind of in between. It was sort of a four or five. But you to be they borrowed some of the styling but they kind of changed the stuff. They changed.

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Speaker 3
I don't think it was for the better. I think it wasn't the nicest, you know, like that point on the headlight that was perfect. I don't know. Yeah, no, I this this was much more its own car, but so it's enforced.

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Speaker 2
It's enforced now. Yeah, you can unlock it. You need 20 points in the season whatever to get it. You do some races, you do the trial, whatever it is.

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Speaker 3
How long do you think it take?

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Speaker 2
I did it in an hour, match.

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Speaker 3
Hour or two.

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Speaker 2
It doesn't take that long. Yeah, but my my issue with it is after I unlocked it, first thing I do is paint it because the unless.

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Speaker 3
It's just one of those.

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Speaker 2
As one does, you want to make it your own like it. You throw some upgrades in it, you throw some cool paint on there. Whatever it is, there are four stark color options on the F8 Tributo what informs it beforehand.

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Speaker 3
So like when you go in and it's the manufacturer colors. Yes. You're saying this.

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Speaker 2
For this for.

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Speaker 3
Take because I haven't unlocked yet. So there's only four.

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Speaker 2
No, there's only four. Take a guess what those four colors are, Jason. Red.

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Speaker 3
Yellow. Yeah. Silver.

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Speaker 2
No, no, no.

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Speaker 3
Okay. No. Silver That's fucking stupid. Fourth color. I don't know. Black, probably.

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Speaker 2
No, no, no.

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Speaker 3
Well, I mean, I can always paint that, but. No black. So then what the hell are the other two colors?

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Speaker 2
A metallic blue, like a mirror? It's not. It's not really a royal blue.

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Speaker 3
This is not like a deeper.

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Speaker 2
It's not deep, is it?

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Speaker 3
Like a f430 blue?

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Speaker 2
Uh, I would point to the bag, but nobody else can see that. But it's that blue.

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Speaker 3
But it's not a nice blue. It's not, it's.

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Speaker 2
It's not your ideal blue.

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Speaker 3
What's the other one?

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Speaker 2
A dark matte green.

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Speaker 3
Come on here. And I'm trying to think of beer here. Dark.

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Speaker 2
Dark blue and dark matte green.

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Speaker 3
Those are oversights. No, that's so. That's the I don't know. I don't even remember seeing one of those like a picture of one like that.

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Speaker 2
No.

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Speaker 3
That's stupid. I don't like that. And that's it. There's no other colors.

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Speaker 2
Those are the only colors that you get to choose from, from the stock colors. If you want to paint it whatever color you want, that's fine. But you have to, you know, choose the color and tune the color. You need to adjust the slider.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. And then you get.

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Speaker 2
Bored of it and then. Exactly. Yeah. Well yeah you get four colors and that's it. And this is why this bothers me because Ferraris. Yes, you're typically painting them in red if you're red.

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Speaker 3
Yellow and red, yellow, silver, black.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or white because it's yeah.

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Speaker 3
No wait to know it's all Snow White.

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Speaker 2
But if I'm painting, if I unlock a Ferrari in Forza, the odds of me owning a Ferrari f8 tributo in real life are slim to none, mainly because Ferrari would look at me and say, No, I don't want you driving my car because you don't have 13 million followers on Instagram and you know you're not a soccer player or basketball player or whatever.

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Speaker 2
You're not drink so you don't get to buy a Ferrari. Yeah. So it bothers me because if I want to drive that car, I want to paint it in stock color. That's going to be my own car. But when you give me four color options, what am I, what am I going to choose from between those four colors?

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Speaker 3
So if you are red. Yeah. You probably not going to want the other ones. No.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. So what's, what's the point and. Yeah, okay, I get it. How the design team and the developers have to go in and they have to scan the car and the colors and they have to, you know, see how the light's going to reflect and all that stuff. But you go to some of the other Porsches in the game and there's like 13 colors.

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Speaker 2
But they have, you know, the standard black, the standard white, the standard yellows and reds, and then they have the metallics and then they have some paint to sample colors. And you're like, Why can't you do that with Ferrari?

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Speaker 3
Well, I'd be interested to know if it's the manufacturer actually limiting the game from only doing certain colors, because that is kind of a Ferrari move. You can have this in the game, but these are the only colors you can scan.

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Speaker 2
That's very much a Ferrari move.

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Speaker 3
That could be a thing, but I've seen this with a couple of cars now where it's like, why the fuck don't they have that like that manufactured color and makes no sense sometimes. So I'd be interested to know, like, if it's, you know, just the fact of all the developers need to scan this and everything and it's like, I don't know, I feel like you and me could probably take a guess in the paint editor and like, get pretty damn close to what it is in real life.

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Speaker 3
Everybody would be fine. You can continue to refine it as you get a new one to scan and be like, Oh yeah, I'd be cool with that. And you can get it like pretty close. But what got me thinking is I wonder if the manufacturers have an issue with that and there's some concerns. But the flip flop, again, I can't see Ferrari being like, yeah, do a matte green as one of your four colors that represents our car really well.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. I can't see that. It just makes no sense.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. Because they have, they have the dark green available in a lot of other cars. Metallic, you know.

00;12;41;15 - 00;12;42;07
Speaker 3
The matte you mean.

00;12;42;08 - 00;12;53;20
Speaker 2
No, it's a gloss nonmetallic green. But it's available on the A12. It's available on the four or five eight special, it's available on.

00;12;53;20 - 00;12;55;20
Speaker 3
TIPO for zero. I have it.

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Speaker 2
As a no. No, that's very Francesca.

00;12;58;15 - 00;13;01;15
Speaker 3
I like that color if you're looking like that color. That color.

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Speaker 2
Yes. Verdi Francesca is it is a beautiful green. It has a really nice light, kind of like a champagne green. Yeah. If I can make it as a live.

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Speaker 3
Sort of.

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Speaker 2
Green. Yes. But it's not really that all of it. It's more.

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Speaker 3
Like. It's like a light olive. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
I don't know how to describe it other than champagne green, but it's, it's, it's beautiful. It's absolutely gorgeous. He has it on his.

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Speaker 3
It's got a special.

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Speaker 2
Note for eight eight Pista.

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Speaker 3
That's a.

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Speaker 2
Great poster. But there was one paint. There was an SS 90 painted in the same color in Verdi.

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Speaker 3
Francesca So 90 also for us now.

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Speaker 2
It is, it's really fast.

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Speaker 3
It's stupid. It's I was saying I think I've seen you the other day where it's like both of those cars kind of came out of nowhere for me. Like there was always so much hype around, like, maybe I'm just old school and I'm stuck in the past, but like four or five, right when that car came out, it was all over.

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Speaker 3
I blew everybody's minds. Yeah. Aventador, that car came out. Everybody's mind.

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Speaker 2
Love. Ferrari.

00;14;03;17 - 00;14;06;29
Speaker 3
Laferrari, the supercar class right there. The Holy Trinity, of course.

00;14;07;05 - 00;14;08;26
Speaker 2
McLaren P1 918 Spyder.

00;14;08;26 - 00;14;16;20
Speaker 3
Exactly. When those cars came out, they dominated headlines and everything. It was a big event when they came out, even looking forward to this and it was like official. They're producing.

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Speaker 2
It. Even the gt2.

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Speaker 3
RS Yeah, there was, there was a lot of hype around, right? But it just kind of, I don't know, maybe I just wasn't following the right people, but I just felt like the sf90 just kind of like showed up and I didn't really understand what it was like. I'm driving this thing the game. Yeah. It's like, stupid fast.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. I don't. I don't know. I felt like I knew how I could start, but it's like blows the doors off the FIA. Yeah, of course. Like, of course as it would. But I thought they were the same in the same can sort of. But they're not and not even close. It's crazy. Yeah. So now also in the game but I don't know how the color options are on on that really quick.

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Speaker 2
I don't know. I got mine and I instantly painted it like a champagne color, kind of like a champagne beige ish.

00;15;05;17 - 00;15;07;17
Speaker 3
Oh, that's cool. Actually, that looks really good. Yeah, it.

00;15;07;17 - 00;15;17;23
Speaker 2
Does look good. I well, I think it looks good. Yeah. Staying on the Italian side of things. This is very big news.

00;15;18;04 - 00;15;34;10
Speaker 3
Boy number Seine. Yep. Lamborghini. Lamborghini, for those of you that didn't know, is going to be entering LDH, which is the new hypercar hypercar class prototype. Hypercar Basic. Yeah, top of endurance racing. And this is a huge deal.

00;15;34;10 - 00;15;43;06
Speaker 2
If you don't know what we're talking about, go back to Forza Motorsport four and hop in any of the prototype cars. Yeah. And that's what we're talking about.

00;15;43;23 - 00;15;46;27
Speaker 3
Yeah. Like that. That class. That's when that class was last bumping.

00;15;46;27 - 00;15;51;23
Speaker 2
I mean my, the BMW, the. Yeah. It was the Penske portion of the Penske.

00;15;51;23 - 00;16;10;13
Speaker 3
Yeah. And this class is starting to come back and it's, it's starting to become revitalized. I mean what really initially killed it was the whole VW emissions scandal that really took down a big chunk of that program because nobody wanted people anymore. But Lamborghini said, which is huge, because we've already got Ferrari, we've already got Porsche, we've already got Audi, right?

00;16;10;14 - 00;16;15;09
Speaker 3
We've got all these different guys, I think. Is GM doing something with that?

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Speaker 2
I don't think GM's going to be in there. And who else? Who I think Bugatti was.

00;16;22;05 - 00;16;31;23
Speaker 3
Bugatti was an idea. So it was Koenigsberg. Um, Bentley. I heard Bentley might be in. You got to think they're definitely thinking about it.

00;16;31;25 - 00;16;39;18
Speaker 2
BMW. BMW is going to be confirmed. Yep. Wow. Yeah. BMW is going to be in. What else? Mercedes.

00;16;40;01 - 00;16;48;24
Speaker 3
Mercedes, for sure. Of course, is Mercedes 100%. That's why they developed that car. That is over the years. And the reason exists.

00;16;48;24 - 00;16;50;18
Speaker 2
Actually, that's true.

00;16;50;18 - 00;17;14;28
Speaker 3
So that's actually crazy to think. So you've got like all these major German automakers are fully on board for this. It's a huge deal that Lamborghini is there for a lot of reasons. The first one, I think, is no secret that if they're unless they're developing something big, something's common. And if you don't believe me, you're silly because that's the name of the game, right?

00;17;14;28 - 00;17;24;07
Speaker 3
That's why people enter motorsports to develop products or to advertise Lamborghini don't need to advertise arenas for Lamborghinis, so they're up to something, which is really cool.

00;17;25;15 - 00;17;30;10
Speaker 2
But yeah, Audi, Porsche, Acura, BMW, Cadillac.

00;17;30;10 - 00;17;31;01
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah.

00;17;31;02 - 00;17;37;00
Speaker 2
Let's go. You were right. GM is in there. One that I'm very excited for is Alpine.

00;17;37;13 - 00;17;40;11
Speaker 3
Yes, Alpine. And very serious with their race program.

00;17;40;29 - 00;17;46;15
Speaker 2
And then Lamborghini. There's rumors with Ford. Rumors with Proton.

00;17;47;01 - 00;17;47;27
Speaker 3
Proton might do it.

00;17;47;27 - 00;17;49;23
Speaker 2
Yeah, they might do it with Porsche.

00;17;49;23 - 00;17;50;02
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;17;51;04 - 00;18;03;15
Speaker 2
McLaren's likely to do something. Bugatti. There's a rumor. Peugeot They're probably only going to be in L.A. Not L and h seen with glickenhaus. Glickenhaus is probably going to be in L.A..

00;18;03;27 - 00;18;07;11
Speaker 3
Yeah, depends on how that is going. I know they're working hard to develop that car.

00;18;07;24 - 00;18;11;15
Speaker 2
Yeah, but either way, it's going to be. It's going to be an unreleased series.

00;18;11;15 - 00;18;18;28
Speaker 3
Yeah, it'll be, you know, to be really interesting. I got two names that come to mind right away. Aston Martin.

00;18;18;28 - 00;18;19;08
Speaker 2
Mm hmm.

00;18;19;19 - 00;18;44;12
Speaker 3
And McLaren. Mm hmm. I can. I think this is the nudge McLaren needs to go into that series of racing. Yeah, because it's like, what, realistically, they're the last of all those groups in that kind of price tag of supercar, right? McLaren Yeah, like that. 2 to $400000 range, even up to five. Yeah, they're probably the last automaker that isn't in this, so they probably have no choice now.

00;18;44;20 - 00;18;50;03
Speaker 3
And I mean, they already got a good race program. They're in this league called Formula One, by the way. I don't know if you've heard of it.

00;18;50;19 - 00;18;51;08
Speaker 2
Wait, Formula.

00;18;51;08 - 00;18;52;09
Speaker 3
One? Formula One.

00;18;52;09 - 00;18;53;02
Speaker 2
Oh, really?

00;18;53;02 - 00;18;56;24
Speaker 3
That's like the top racing thing. Anyway. Interesting. So they've got a big factory that they.

00;18;56;24 - 00;18;58;08
Speaker 2
Do a race in the U.S. or something.

00;18;58;08 - 00;19;00;27
Speaker 3
Something like that. They also make a pretty decent road car.

00;19;01;05 - 00;19;02;07
Speaker 2
So what's that called?

00;19;02;18 - 00;19;04;06
Speaker 3
I don't know. McLaren Something like that.

00;19;04;06 - 00;19;05;08
Speaker 2
McLaren something. Okay.

00;19;05;09 - 00;19;35;03
Speaker 3
So anyways, this small company out of somewhere in the UK, they're going to be interested now because they're effectively the last people known in. Yeah, I think Aston Martin is really regretting their motorsport decisions because they point themselves out of GT racing, factory batch racing. They still have customer cars and they partner with customers cars and everything like that, similar to what Porsche does in North America right now.

00;19;35;18 - 00;19;52;21
Speaker 3
So yeah, they have like factory supported teams or they're not really factory teams and that's really yeah, it's really stupid, but I bet you they're regretting going in F1 right now because that series is going to be a hell of a series that list you just rattled off. Oh my goodness. That's going to be something else.

00;19;53;05 - 00;20;15;24
Speaker 2
I'm excited to see. Not only where the cars go and how the cars look, how they how they sound, how they drive. But I'm excited to eventually because we both know this is going to happen. I'm eventually I'm excited to eventually be able to drive them in and have motors working like the new.

00;20;15;24 - 00;20;16;13
Speaker 3
Yeah for as a.

00;20;16;13 - 00;20;20;16
Speaker 2
Motorsport that's eventually going to come out whenever it decides to.

00;20;21;27 - 00;20;25;07
Speaker 3
Be in soon. It's getting close to either this year or next year.

00;20;25;07 - 00;20;26;23
Speaker 2
But I it's not going I.

00;20;26;23 - 00;20;27;26
Speaker 3
Don't think this year I.

00;20;27;26 - 00;20;41;23
Speaker 2
Don't think this year. Why there's way too much stuff to worry about. Plus, if it's going to be exclusive to the new console, then, you know, everybody that has the older Xbox One's sorry you're well, you don't get it.

00;20;42;00 - 00;20;51;13
Speaker 3
By the way, test drive unlimited. You know, with the new game and they're going to be not supporting the PS4 and Xbox One the original.

00;20;51;16 - 00;20;53;01
Speaker 2
The the older ones. Yeah.

00;20;53;06 - 00;21;01;08
Speaker 3
So I think I think they had originally said this is something we're going to do. Otherwise they would have announced that they're not doing it. That's right.

00;21;01;09 - 00;21;05;28
Speaker 2
That's true. I'm going to be shit out of luck then because I got an Xbox One and two. Oh, right. Yeah.

00;21;05;28 - 00;21;24;24
Speaker 3
Yeah, I do too. I've been liking the whole cloud gaming thing on my computer because it processes it on the new console. Yeah, but it's a little laggy and for racing it's not great. Anyway, it's test drive. The graphics look okay, like it's not meant to be like a cutting edge game. Supposed to be fun. So yeah, it's probably an AT&T console, but it.

00;21;24;24 - 00;21;31;08
Speaker 2
Was the same with test drive limited to when when a test drive is limited to came out there were some some games that have we better graphics.

00;21;31;08 - 00;21;34;08
Speaker 3
Yeah but it's more of a concept than it is so.

00;21;34;08 - 00;21;52;24
Speaker 2
Oh it's so much fun and the amount of things you could do like you could do, you had turn signals, you could roll windows down to put the roof down on cars. Yeah. Like that's, that's what I want out of a, out of a driving game is not just the aspect of, of oh yeah, I'm a race around on a road circuit and I'm going to race around on the track and I'm going to send my BMW.

00;21;52;24 - 00;21;54;01
Speaker 2
I set off through a forest.

00;21;54;06 - 00;22;14;04
Speaker 3
Yeah, I think I think the arguments have always been or we have to pick. All right, we have to pick. Do we want graphics or do we want, like all this different versatility and gameplay? I think that's kind of versatility. Yeah. I'm at the point where I wouldn't mind like really how many more graphic advancements we're going to make, although we really don't know what's coming with this new form of motorsport game.

00;22;14;04 - 00;22;31;10
Speaker 3
We weren't really planning on talking about that today. No, but it is a good point. Like, I'd be curious to see where they go with this game and yeah, you know, now that you say it, I could see it being one more year. We just had a game drop, right? Like they might want to take some time with it to really perfect it.

00;22;32;04 - 00;22;36;09
Speaker 3
And I feel like we would have heard more news about it by now and we just really haven't heard much.

00;22;36;24 - 00;22;59;23
Speaker 2
So on the topic of Forza, though, do you and now this is this is going back I'm going to use the Audi R8 as a reference back in Forza motorsport three, we had the Audi R8 with the V8 4.2 liter V8, V8, R8 Motorsport three V ten R8 Motorsport four and five. But those ones had the gated manual.

00;23;00;14 - 00;23;22;12
Speaker 2
Now they ended up moving away for the V ten plus, which didn't have the gated manual, had the S-TRONIC. Then they came out with the new kind of squared off facelifted version of the R8. And then now that's the newest version of the R8 that you can get in the game. But in Horizon one, they had the R8 g t in the coupe and the Spyder.

00;23;22;12 - 00;23;26;19
Speaker 3
Yes. And the GT for those of you that don't remember, had the little like front canard things.

00;23;26;19 - 00;23;27;26
Speaker 2
Yep. Little in the way.

00;23;28;26 - 00;23;29;15
Speaker 3
And yes.

00;23;29;22 - 00;23;40;01
Speaker 2
They were just so, so good looking. Yeah. But my gripe is why don't they have now I understand people are like.

00;23;40;04 - 00;23;44;15
Speaker 4
There's too many mustangs in the game. You get too many choices. They don't know which Mustang to drive.

00;23;45;07 - 00;23;52;22
Speaker 2
Who cares? Who cares? I don't care if there's 17 versions of the Mustang. They put the SVO in them in the in fours, for God sakes.

00;23;53;02 - 00;23;54;07
Speaker 3
SVO, where are you going with this?

00;23;54;17 - 00;24;10;00
Speaker 2
I bring back more accessible cars. Bring back cars that were in older games. Okay. Even though there's newer versions of them, because I would rather drive the gate ID manual, r8 v ten. Yeah. Than the new r8 v ten plus performance with the square headlights.

00;24;10;06 - 00;24;27;02
Speaker 3
Yes. I, I think historically 20, 30 years from now, people are going to like that first and second edition of the R8. The best. Yeah, that was the best looking styling of it. But I agree with you. I think there should be kind of like that granturismo style, like all these different trims and variations of similar cars. Yeah.

00;24;27;03 - 00;24;48;18
Speaker 3
To like six different version of the Mustang because they are very different unique cars. And the accessibility portion is a good point. Like I wouldn't mind having a c63 sedan in the game. It's no different really. Like sound wise or anything from the Black Series. Yeah. And I guess there's not much of an incentive for them to do it, but it'd be my car.

00;24;48;23 - 00;24;54;01
Speaker 3
Yeah. So, yeah, I'd be down. Yeah. So I can only imagine. Mustang owners. Corvette owners. Yeah.

00;24;54;15 - 00;25;01;02
Speaker 2
Or even you have the e63. There's two versions or two generations of the E63. Why don't you put the.

00;25;01;02 - 00;25;03;04
Speaker 3
The wagon, three wagon, by the way C63.

00;25;03;04 - 00;25;20;01
Speaker 2
Why don't you put the wagon in the game or the the S-Class? I mean, granted, there's no S-Class in the game, but there was the S 65 in Horizon one. You could either bring the S-Class AMG back or you could put the S-Class coupe in the game. Yeah. Which would be sick.

00;25;20;01 - 00;25;38;15
Speaker 3
Yeah, you could do a lot of little things like that. Yeah, it'd be. It'd be cool if you could. I can't imagine it being too much work too. Like if you even look at something like the old, a lot of you won't remember but the Pontiac G8 gxp. Yeah, if you did the Pontiac GTO, which the difference was one of the 6.2 liter, the other one is a six liter.

00;25;38;17 - 00;25;40;25
Speaker 3
Yeah. I mean one same car we didn't.

00;25;40;27 - 00;25;41;06
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00;25;41;06 - 00;26;01;05
Speaker 3
It was a different front fascia slightly and a slightly different hood I want to say too. That's it. So realistically, that's got to be like not much time for designers at all, right? Like, it's just a slight redesign. Everything else, the mechanics and everything are going to be roughly the same. Yeah. So like, yeah, I don't know, I'd be interested to see more mustangs and all that.

00;26;01;05 - 00;26;13;10
Speaker 3
I'm not the biggest Mustang guy, but I mean, I beat the wheels off of a GTI or something. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like a car, like, I just go I could go out and buy. It doesn't always have to be the top trim. Yeah, it's a big point. I'd like to see more variety with that.

00;26;13;10 - 00;26;40;02
Speaker 2
Even EcoBoost Mustang like they they brought the SVO into the game. But yeah, they already have a fox body, SVT. So all the people that have this SVO, they're either keeping that stock engine in it or they're going to swap it for the five seater Mustang. Yeah. And boom, you now you have the Fox body, SVT. So what's the what's even the point of having the SVO in the game if you're not going to use that original engine?

00;26;40;09 - 00;26;45;02
Speaker 3
Yeah, it would be interesting. Yeah, I think it's, it's something that would be nice. Yeah.

00;26;45;25 - 00;27;10;28
Speaker 2
It's, I don't know, it's frustrating to, to have all of these, you know, cars available or cars out there, but they're just kind of overlooking them. Yeah. And you have this car pass where it's a it's a paid thing. You pay for the car pass and then you get the cars. And I know that we talked about on the last episode, the December ECG and Car Park.

00;27;10;28 - 00;27;11;12
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah.

00;27;11;17 - 00;27;14;23
Speaker 2
Which was an unreal car pass.

00;27;14;26 - 00;27;19;04
Speaker 3
Top, top to bottom. A very good car park to begin with.

00;27;19;04 - 00;27;25;21
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. The cars were great. You had the McLaren, the G.T. X-1. That was the Ford was X-1, yes.

00;27;25;21 - 00;27;28;04
Speaker 3
Yeah, very wrong. We had our H1.

00;27;28;17 - 00;27;29;28
Speaker 2
Hummer, H1, Alpha Open, Top.

00;27;30;14 - 00;27;32;01
Speaker 3
F150, SVT.

00;27;32;07 - 00;28;04;09
Speaker 2
No that wasn't in that one. Yeah. And then there was the McLaren F1 but another, another really good one was the April Top Gear car pack because that had the Aston Martin vanquish, the 2012 vanquish, it had the BMW, M3, GT-R, it had the Mercedes, okay? GT-R had what was the other one that they had. Oh, the Alfa Romeo ts a three Zagato.

00;28;04;11 - 00;28;08;18
Speaker 2
Mm. Which is a spec looking car was. Ah it's so.

00;28;08;18 - 00;28;09;25
Speaker 3
Cool. Very strange.

00;28;09;26 - 00;28;17;06
Speaker 2
It's so cool. I would have loved that car. I don't care how reliable it is, I would love it. Yeah. Just, just to have it as a thing. Yeah.

00;28;17;06 - 00;28;18;12
Speaker 3
That was a hell of a pack. Yeah.

00;28;19;22 - 00;28;42;07
Speaker 2
But they have these trailers and I understand that doing the trailer is a lot of work and oh, what are we going to do? But if you know that the cars are going to come out eventually do a trailer to get people excited for them, because that's I think that's one of the reasons why the car pass isn't doing that well, because they're not releasing trailers to get people excited for the cars in the car parts.

00;28;42;07 - 00;28;43;05
Speaker 3
You think it's not doing that well?

00;28;43;18 - 00;28;46;00
Speaker 2
Well, you buy the car pass. We don't know what you're going to get.

00;28;46;28 - 00;28;47;17
Speaker 3
It's a good point.

00;28;47;18 - 00;28;48;18
Speaker 2
Because you buy it at the beginning.

00;28;48;18 - 00;28;49;07
Speaker 3
Just blindly.

00;28;49;16 - 00;29;09;28
Speaker 2
You're blindly buying this this paid car pass. And, you know, you could be like, oh, I'm going to spend $25 on this car pass so that I eventually get cars throughout the year. But then for us it could be like, haha, we're going to give you a Toyota Prius and a Ford Fusion hybrid and we're going to give you all these absolute shit cars.

00;29;09;28 - 00;29;19;23
Speaker 2
But you know, they don't do that. But to get people excited about the car pass, you take the four cars that are going to be released eventually throughout that week, you throw them in a trailer and you make it sick.

00;29;19;23 - 00;29;35;03
Speaker 3
Well, you know what's something I haven't even ever thought of until right now. Oh, is all of these. So we we talk about this all the time. Like these have all these sick trailers and sick videos and everything. We were looking at one the other day and the viewers were like, moderate on it, right? Like it was actually pretty high for a DLC pack.

00;29;35;03 - 00;29;57;26
Speaker 3
Like a pretty minor ten year old DLC pack. Yeah. What I didn't think about was they kind of stopped making those really sick videos right before they made an Instagram account. There's a lot of you might not remember. Yeah, that, like, Forza Horizon didn't have its own Instagram account for a long time. Like, I want to say.

00;29;58;15 - 00;29;59;03
Speaker 2
That it.

00;29;59;10 - 00;30;17;15
Speaker 3
Started. Yeah, I think it was like Horizon three, man, because the Horizon two, yeah, it definitely wasn't around. Horizon three was tiny. I'm pretty sure they were a tiny page wasn't verified. Yeah. And it would seem like it'd be a really good opportunity to make some dope videos because they have video editing tools in-game and everything that we don't.

00;30;17;15 - 00;30;30;28
Speaker 3
Yeah. And they made stuff looks like ten years ago. So now what they can do now. Yeah, that would be a great thing to put on social media. That would get me fired up. Oh yeah. Put some music on. Get some like six shots of these cars because a lot of times they are the cars that are putting in.

00;30;31;03 - 00;30;40;01
Speaker 2
A lot of the times even this the this week right now you have the SVT lightning, the Magnum SRT eight, which is so cool.

00;30;40;01 - 00;30;40;12
Speaker 3
I love that.

00;30;40;12 - 00;30;46;20
Speaker 2
Car, the Toyota Tacoma TRT Pro also, which is really cool. I can't remember the last one, but that just shows you how important it is.

00;30;46;20 - 00;31;02;21
Speaker 3
Something else? Yeah. I don't know. All I know is it would be a sick way to get people fired up about it, because right now it's pretty mundane. Like it's the same pictures, the same sort of shots, the same angle. It's a very box art ish. Like it looks like it's probably a poster at Wal-Mart somewhere. It's the same sort of like settings and everything.

00;31;02;29 - 00;31;07;09
Speaker 3
There's nothing too dynamic or risky as far as like dark lighting or something cool. Yeah, even that.

00;31;07;18 - 00;31;12;23
Speaker 2
So lets drive this car on the highway and get a three quarter frontal angle shot. Take a picture of it. Yeah.

00;31;12;23 - 00;31;25;16
Speaker 3
And I guess you know what, it does the job and gets people going but it would be cool to have that video side of it because it was something we honestly still enjoyed very, very much. And I think you just get more mileage out of it.

00;31;25;16 - 00;31;26;10
Speaker 2
It gets the people.

00;31;26;10 - 00;31;41;28
Speaker 3
Going, it does get the people going. And I mean, we just watched the ten year old minor DLC YouTube video like ten times a day. Oh, yeah. So, you know, I mean, like there's mileage of people against GM. It's like a check this out. Get people. That's how I got an award for Mustang. Yeah, just this really good electronic music, man.

00;31;42;00 - 00;31;43;28
Speaker 3
Yeah. So artist was.

00;31;45;03 - 00;31;47;11
Speaker 2
Music, man, so in a way, you can go.

00;31;47;11 - 00;31;52;11
Speaker 3
On with that. So I don't. I don't know. Anyways, that would be cool. I see what you mean with that. Yeah.

00;31;53;07 - 00;32;07;17
Speaker 2
Yeah I just, I wish they had something more with what they were working on because they do have the capabilities. Yeah. But I mean to, to get well to convince them to do that is basically like winning a lottery.

00;32;07;26 - 00;32;22;07
Speaker 3
Yeah. Well, what are you going to say? Like, if somebody is listening to this, they're going to be like, well, fuck these kids. Like, it's one of the fastest selling games. It's one of the best selling games of the year. Like, what are these kids now? So it's like, Yeah, I guess that's a good point. It's doing all right.

00;32;22;11 - 00;32;29;14
Speaker 3
What do you really need to adjust? But this is just what we see after after all these years of feedback things they used to do better. Yeah.

00;32;30;05 - 00;32;37;19
Speaker 2
Yeah. Speaking of lotteries, how do you feel about I know this is something that you want to complain about.

00;32;37;25 - 00;32;43;24
Speaker 3
Fox6 So a segment we're going to have is Jason's complaint corner because.

00;32;43;24 - 00;32;45;14
Speaker 2
You have way too many complaints. Yes.

00;32;45;14 - 00;32;48;10
Speaker 3
And if we love to complain, I know you want different things.

00;32;48;14 - 00;32;57;05
Speaker 2
If we had all of them lined up, we would run out of time. So it would be a weekly thing. So look forward to it. And what's your complaint this week?

00;32;57;05 - 00;33;03;15
Speaker 3
J This week. This week, my complaint is people who buy lottery tickets at gas stations.

00;33;03;15 - 00;33;04;04
Speaker 2
Gas station.

00;33;04;04 - 00;33;23;14
Speaker 3
I hate it. It drives me nuts. It should drive you nuts. If you are one of these people who goes to a variety store and you get your scratch offs for your lottery tickets forever, and you do it at the counter and everything like that, and you have to instantly know right away like, did I win $3? Shannon, you're doing that out of Variety Store.

00;33;23;17 - 00;33;31;04
Speaker 3
Great. I will never see you. I can guarantee you I'll never see you at the gas station. You got the right spot versus right? Right, right. If you're at a gas.

00;33;31;04 - 00;33;34;11
Speaker 2
Station, that's different.

00;33;34;11 - 00;33;35;16
Speaker 3
I wouldn't.

00;33;36;02 - 00;33;37;00
Speaker 2
That was a big sign.

00;33;38;10 - 00;33;57;05
Speaker 3
Yeah, like I would. I would like to fight any of these people. I won't. It's the worst. It's the dumbest thing you can do is to go to a gas station where people are typically in a rush, typically like it's an in and out gig. Right? I'm getting Gatorade, I'm leaving, I'm getting gasoline. Get my receipt because the receipt thing that arrests the gas stations for leaving or then it goes to.

00;33;57;05 - 00;33;57;26
Speaker 2
Print out, it's like.

00;33;58;22 - 00;33;59;03
Speaker 3
Exact.

00;33;59;04 - 00;34;02;06
Speaker 2
Oh, okay. I guess I don't get to know how much gas I put in my car.

00;34;02;06 - 00;34;30;05
Speaker 3
Lovely. Yeah. So it's frustrating when people go up. It's not frustrating. It's stupid. It is dumb. You're dumb. If you're listening and you do this, you stop doing this. Everybody behind you, including the cashier, thinks you're an idiot. It's just that's what's going on. If you're scratching off your stupid Plinko ticket at the very front thing when everybody else is in rush and everyone's got places, and you pulled up in some piece of crap with their muffler hanging off of the back of it because you want to get $3 and you just drop 16 on scratch off.

00;34;30;08 - 00;34;46;16
Speaker 3
Yeah, you suck. And everybody not like around you is fully aware. So don't do that. Don't win five lottery tickets there. You know you're going to buy them. You have your routine down. Go somewhere where people are in a rush, go somewhere where people are just there to buy vape juice and cigarets.

00;34;46;16 - 00;34;53;19
Speaker 2
And they come by back of like 30. They come in with a stack of 30 and are like, well, we brought winning tickets for the week and like be congratulated.

00;34;53;19 - 00;34;53;26
Speaker 3
Dude, you.

00;34;53;26 - 00;34;58;08
Speaker 2
Won $2 beep. Congratulations. You won $2. Beat the stupid. You won $2.

00;34;58;08 - 00;35;05;00
Speaker 3
I hate it. It's just don't do that. If this is something you do, stop doing it. I hate you. I hate you so much.

00;35;05;19 - 00;35;24;20
Speaker 2
And the three cards, the three cars that they would usually show up in are like an early grand caravan, like an an older Dodge Grand Caravan, an older Dodge Neon or Ford Focus, like a small compact car or a P.T. cruiser. Those are the cars that they would show up in. Am I wrong?

00;35;25;26 - 00;35;41;04
Speaker 3
Yeah, I would agree. I fucking hate the pictures. Or by the way, I hate that car. I it's the worst, stupidest, most depressing. Okay. Poverty. Okay. Built by idiots. No, no, no it's so bad. No, you disagree.

00;35;41;04 - 00;35;54;20
Speaker 2
I disagree. I it's. It's not perfect. It's not perfect. But I don't think it's the worst car in the world. What? Because it was kind of cool and no.

00;35;54;20 - 00;36;03;05
Speaker 3
Yes, it was. Cool is nice. It was kind of. No, no, no, no. What's cool for being weird was that after we talked about earlier. No, no, this is not. Hear me.

00;36;03;05 - 00;36;09;22
Speaker 2
Out. Okay? It came out around the same time as the Plymouth Prowler. And can we agree that a Plymouth Prowler is a cool car.

00;36;09;22 - 00;36;12;04
Speaker 3
Other than the fact that it's a V6? Yes, it's a very.

00;36;12;04 - 00;36;39;01
Speaker 2
Cool it's a very cool car. Yes. It came out around the same time I had the around the same design language age like that kind of retro reborn vibe going. Granted, the base ones were terrible, but you could get one with a 2.4 liter turbocharged engine. Yes. And a manual transmission, which was the same engine that was in the Dodge Neon SRT four.

00;36;39;01 - 00;36;58;26
Speaker 3
Okay. Dodge the uncertainty for underrated sleepy cool car. Yeah. Is it really is. It was still ugly as shit, but it was a really cool car at heart. The cruiser you're such a marketing sucker. That is exactly why they made the prowler was to get people to go all it looks like the feet are the fucking prowlers all by empty cruiser.

00;36;58;26 - 00;37;04;08
Speaker 3
I can tell you right now that manual, probably you got 100,000 kilometers in and went kaput.

00;37;04;25 - 00;37;11;13
Speaker 2
I still. I still like the P.T. Cruiser. I like it. What I do, I go out of my way to buy one. No, but.

00;37;11;13 - 00;37;31;14
Speaker 3
Can you agree with can you agree with me that anybody who actively bought one new or drives one today so not the in-between, right? Bought one new like ordered one from the factory of or drives one right now in 2022. Yeah, those people are idiots. Now, can you agree with me? No. So you think spending $28,000 on a loaded P.T. Cruiser at the time was a smart play?

00;37;31;14 - 00;37;31;24
Speaker 2
Yes.

00;37;32;14 - 00;37;34;00
Speaker 3
I hate if if someone.

00;37;34;00 - 00;37;45;10
Speaker 2
If it was a loaded one, if it was a loaded one, 100%. Now, I don't like the ones with the wooden paneling. I don't like those ones. But the purple that the purple that I had was really nice. I like that kind of deep purple. I think that was a really cool color.

00;37;45;17 - 00;37;57;03
Speaker 3
Yeah. Bring back purple cars, by the way. There needs to be more purple 100%. That's a very, very underused color. I'm crazy Dodge Dodge's in 2008 and the best version of that.

00;37;57;03 - 00;38;05;18
Speaker 2
Yeah POM crazy purple or I didn't like the convertible version that a convertible version can go you know take a swim in the lake.

00;38;07;03 - 00;38;08;08
Speaker 3
And not come out.

00;38;08;08 - 00;38;09;04
Speaker 2
Not come out now.

00;38;09;04 - 00;38;10;22
Speaker 3
Go in the deep end and stay.

00;38;10;23 - 00;38;33;15
Speaker 2
Go it like driving, driving to the St Clair River and just sink to the bottom, get hit by a boat. But the, the actual sedan versions I like those they did have this the one version that I do not like even more so than the convertible was the stupid panel van version of the P.T. Cruiser, because they had the panel van version where it didn't have the windows in the back.

00;38;33;16 - 00;38;37;07
Speaker 2
Oh, it was just the, you know, the one I'm talking the.

00;38;37;07 - 00;38;41;22
Speaker 3
Mutant like shooting brake looking thing. Yeah. It had some sort of.

00;38;41;25 - 00;38;50;07
Speaker 2
It just had the front two doors and the rest of it was, you know, your typical I need to transport vehicle parts from point A to.

00;38;50;07 - 00;38;55;28
Speaker 3
Point B, it was basically somebody was drunk in a bar one night. They're like, oh, let's get all those shooting brakes going.

00;38;55;28 - 00;38;59;03
Speaker 2
Let's take off the back doors and we won't put any windows in it.

00;38;59;07 - 00;39;07;24
Speaker 3
It was the most useless car. I want to stop talking about this. I'm drinking a beer. I'm trying to drink a beer. I want to throw up personally. Oh, I can't. I can't.

00;39;07;28 - 00;39;11;18
Speaker 2
Oh, no, thank you. I still like it now.

00;39;11;18 - 00;39;25;21
Speaker 3
All right, well, fuck that car. I might be something we do more often because there's a I don't know, I got to, like, do some market research to make sure you're seen on some of these pics, but fuck that car. I hate it. You're an idiot if you drive one.

00;39;25;21 - 00;39;28;11
Speaker 2
I are next. No, I know.

00;39;28;11 - 00;39;34;15
Speaker 3
I want to talk about it. I'm not going to talk about this anymore. Next. No, I want to talk about something else next.

00;39;34;15 - 00;39;37;11
Speaker 2
Okay. I don't know what.

00;39;38;08 - 00;39;39;11
Speaker 4
Oh.

00;39;40;03 - 00;39;42;10
Speaker 3
I just got some news.

00;39;42;10 - 00;39;45;03
Speaker 2
Oh, you have some news?

00;39;45;03 - 00;40;07;13
Speaker 3
Yes, I have some news. Let's see. So the news that I just saw was Ferrari confirms Kim Kardashian is banned from owning certain types of their cars. Did you hear about this? No, I didn't hear about this either at all. At the same time, Justin Bieber, 50 Cent and Nicolas Cage were all rumored to have been blacklisted by Ferrari's whoa.

00;40;07;20 - 00;40;08;04
Speaker 2
Oh.

00;40;08;04 - 00;40;08;19
Speaker 3
Ninjas.

00;40;08;25 - 00;40;09;24
Speaker 2
Which makes me sad.

00;40;09;24 - 00;40;12;27
Speaker 3
This is according to some random site called Pop Buzz.

00;40;13;06 - 00;40;14;07
Speaker 2
Oh, that sounds.

00;40;14;07 - 00;40;21;29
Speaker 3
It is reputable. They do link to legit things here. Okay. This is just the first article I've seen, but I'm trying to see what the problem is here.

00;40;22;08 - 00;40;43;23
Speaker 2
Well, Ferrari doesn't anybody who talks anything about their car other than high praise did you. Okay so on this on this topic I'm not too sure if he knew about this, but Ferrari, this was something that I was reading up on. There's a lot of pages that mention this and YouTube videos. There's a lot of stuff out there when it comes to the press cars.

00;40;44;04 - 00;41;06;29
Speaker 2
The press cars are different than the road cars, the actual customer cars. They're completely different now, not in the version of it's a completely different engine under different chassis or different tires or whatever. But they set the car up different. So if you go and you test a press car for Ferrari like an F8 Tributo or the 296 Gtb, and you go to the track and you test the press car.

00;41;07;06 - 00;41;29;20
Speaker 2
That press car has been specifically set up for that track. The suspension, the tuning, everything has been specifically set up to feel as good as it possibly can on that track. Customer cars are completely different because that's just the standard production car and I can't remember specific. I think it was Chris Harris, but don't quote me on this.

00;41;29;21 - 00;41;30;17
Speaker 3
Yeah, I was. Yeah.

00;41;30;25 - 00;41;35;20
Speaker 2
But he complained about this and for hours, like, nope, you can't buy any of our cars anymore.

00;41;36;11 - 00;42;03;04
Speaker 3
Yeah, which seems crazy because, like, he's just he's calling them out on something that's, like, blatantly, they know is wrong. Otherwise they wouldn't have said, okay, you can't do this anymore. It's like, why? Why are you doing that? Yeah, yeah. In a Ferrari, surprise weirdness, stuff like that. I'm just I finished reading the article just now and it seems that all of those people so Bieber, Kardashian, Nicolas Cage, they weren't taking care of the Ferraris were taking care.

00;42;03;04 - 00;42;24;00
Speaker 3
Yes. I don't know. I'm taking that's all they say is they're they're un so they're unable to buy special or limited release cars. They can still buy production like standard variants. Yeah, but they can't buy anything else. So I don't know what that means. I don't know what information they got. They also cited that Bieber, they didn't like the modifications he made to his last one.

00;42;24;00 - 00;42;28;07
Speaker 2
That's fair because I don't like the modification. He didn't like any car.

00;42;28;15 - 00;42;43;09
Speaker 3
People forget. It is a really foreign idea for an automaker just to be like, no, you can't buy this car anymore because we didn't like what you did to it. Like, it seems crazy over here. It's like, Well, I can do whatever the fuck I want. I bought it, but a lot of these companies, I bet you Lamborghini, you do the same thing.

00;42;43;09 - 00;42;44;21
Speaker 3
If you start doing all this like.

00;42;44;21 - 00;42;45;22
Speaker 2
Lamborghini doesn't care.

00;42;46;16 - 00;42;50;10
Speaker 3
I think if you did a lot of stupid stuff to a special edition car, they'd be like, especially you're out.

00;42;50;10 - 00;42;59;27
Speaker 2
Yeah, to a special edition maybe. But I mean, that was like with with Dead Mouse and the four or five eight because Dead Mouse did the Nyan Cat wrap on the, on the Ferrari.

00;42;59;27 - 00;43;00;14
Speaker 3
Pretty good.

00;43;00;14 - 00;43;06;03
Speaker 2
It was pretty good. Yeah. And then 4 hours like no you can't on our cars anymore, we can't buy any of our cars, we don't want you.

00;43;06;03 - 00;43;08;26
Speaker 3
And that was like a blanket that they could do anything.

00;43;08;29 - 00;43;11;15
Speaker 2
Nothing. And then Lamborghinis like, hey, do you want a hurricane?

00;43;12;07 - 00;43;31;05
Speaker 3
Yeah, Lamborghinis. Lamborghini is cool with that stuff. Yeah. But I would say if you if you do some really dumb stuff to a special edition car, there's no way you're getting another one. You ever even Porsche? I bet a sneaky Porsche like if you did some crazy aftermarket paint to it and like some Vader stupid get to it.

00;43;31;09 - 00;43;39;00
Speaker 2
Imagine getting a like one of the limited edition sport classics and then putting an AWB kit on it.

00;43;39;00 - 00;43;39;26
Speaker 3
You'd never be able to buy any of.

00;43;39;26 - 00;43;40;06
Speaker 2
The Porsche.

00;43;40;07 - 00;43;41;04
Speaker 3
And they never let you.

00;43;41;04 - 00;43;49;18
Speaker 2
And wrapping it in some, you know anime girl wrap and I don't know.

00;43;50;03 - 00;43;51;21
Speaker 3
Yeah and you put like one of.

00;43;51;21 - 00;43;53;06
Speaker 2
Them going off a cliff like a top one of.

00;43;53;06 - 00;43;55;14
Speaker 3
Those stupid Japanese exhaust things that comes.

00;43;55;14 - 00;43;58;00
Speaker 2
Over that should show token.

00;43;58;08 - 00;44;01;23
Speaker 3
Very weird like that. There's a couple of automakers that are kind of weird like that.

00;44;01;23 - 00;44;12;29
Speaker 2
But I get it. You know, when you make unique cars and you make them for unique clientele and that unique clientele isn't either maintaining the cars or isn't.

00;44;13;13 - 00;44;32;18
Speaker 3
Yeah, they're your people, like low key or spokespeople. They are like Kim Kardashian's to be seen getting in and out of her Ferrari. How many times. Right. They probably every time. Yeah. So if it's disgusting or filthy which it sounds like that was the case, which is really weird. Whatever. Or maybe she just doesn't change the oil like, yeah, I can see.

00;44;32;18 - 00;44;39;21
Speaker 3
I can honestly see that's what it was. Yeah. So I tried to change the oil like, yeah, sweetheart, like it's 23,000 kilometers. You got a four or five eight like.

00;44;40;02 - 00;44;40;29
Speaker 2
Thing to blow up.

00;44;41;01 - 00;44;42;23
Speaker 3
Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know.

00;44;42;23 - 00;44;49;11
Speaker 2
I haven't changed the brake pads on. There's 2012 California since I got it. What am I going to do?

00;44;49;12 - 00;45;07;08
Speaker 3
Jesus, California. By the way, we saw what occurs in coffee. It actually sounds not bad. I have made fun of that car for a long time as kind of this sort of stepchild of Ferrari, this afterthought. But it's actually the newer ones. They're actually pretty sweet.

00;45;07;08 - 00;45;07;21
Speaker 2
They are.

00;45;07;25 - 00;45;12;23
Speaker 3
I would never spend the money on it. It's not worth it. No, like in that price range, there's way better pricing. Good, but it sounds good.

00;45;13;04 - 00;45;22;10
Speaker 2
Yeah. And I do agree. I like I do like the like the original California the California team not too big of a fan of the the Portofino is.

00;45;22;10 - 00;45;25;29
Speaker 3
Yeah I'm more attachment to the original California but I think the newer one they're better cars.

00;45;25;29 - 00;45;35;15
Speaker 2
Yeah but the one Ferrari and I'll finish this Ferrari thing on this. Yeah. The Roma. I love the Roma. Yeah it.

00;45;35;15 - 00;45;39;14
Speaker 3
Is great. Oh beautiful. Great in Forza. But it is the rubber.

00;45;39;14 - 00;45;40;04
Speaker 2
Is not enforceable.

00;45;40;22 - 00;45;41;27
Speaker 3
What am I thinking of? I don't.

00;45;41;27 - 00;45;42;04
Speaker 2
Know.

00;45;42;23 - 00;45;49;05
Speaker 3
The one with the squiggly tail. It sounds great. Open top. What. The open top. Ferrari. What is that.

00;45;49;11 - 00;45;51;07
Speaker 2
Oh the is a g50.

00;45;51;22 - 00;45;53;09
Speaker 3
No we were just playing it.

00;45;53;27 - 00;45;56;20
Speaker 2
What do you mean. That's what. Oh the Monza.

00;45;56;20 - 00;45;57;07
Speaker 3
Monza.

00;45;57;15 - 00;45;59;16
Speaker 2
But that's, that's based off the F12.

00;45;59;16 - 00;46;00;08
Speaker 3
Sorry.

00;46;00;08 - 00;46;02;12
Speaker 2
So ah. 812 whatever is that.

00;46;02;12 - 00;46;07;06
Speaker 3
I think so. The Roma. No the Roma is different. You're right, the Roma.

00;46;07;06 - 00;46;11;22
Speaker 2
Is, the Roma is the grand tour with the supermodel. Modern. Look to it. Yeah I like.

00;46;11;22 - 00;46;17;00
Speaker 3
That. There's one in town. Is there. There is. There's no dark red one. Yeah. So mean.

00;46;17;10 - 00;46;18;24
Speaker 2
It's nice. I haven't seen it yet.

00;46;19;02 - 00;46;34;26
Speaker 3
It's, I've only seen it twice but the one time I saw it was at a McDonald's drive through solid. I get I guess it seemed weird but no it was just it was a three car. I didn't mind it. But it's you know, it's not about that, though. It actually isn't half bad. It's 22.

00;46;34;26 - 00;46;35;11
Speaker 2
Is it 20.

00;46;35;11 - 00;46;37;29
Speaker 3
Two? Yes, 22. So I'm wearing pants.

00;46;38;07 - 00;46;40;09
Speaker 2
Yeah, we're both one. I'm wearing pants and a.

00;46;40;09 - 00;46;46;14
Speaker 3
Sweater I'm wearing. Yeah, that's not good. It is. Must you answer that? I wore that outfit cards and coffee and I was sweating.

00;46;46;14 - 00;46;48;11
Speaker 2
This is terrible. I know.

00;46;48;18 - 00;46;55;12
Speaker 3
Thank God they're giving out free t shirts there because I was disgusting. So I changed out very quick for the problem is with the weather.

00;46;55;21 - 00;46;57;21
Speaker 2
What they weren't giving out free T-shirts well.

00;46;57;21 - 00;47;01;24
Speaker 3
Damn paid. Okay so whatever. So free to me.

00;47;01;26 - 00;47;04;29
Speaker 2
Free to you. So you didn't pay for them, but someone else paid for it? Yeah.

00;47;04;29 - 00;47;20;24
Speaker 3
So I'll classify that as free and a free T-shirt. So I was able to stick. The only problem is with good weather. I looked so bad in shorts like I look so terrible. Like both of my legs are bad or anything. I just. It's not. It's not my luck. It just isn't.

00;47;21;01 - 00;47;31;07
Speaker 2
I think my favorite hot weather experience with you was when we went to the Eskimos game and you stood up and your back was drenched.

00;47;31;07 - 00;47;43;24
Speaker 3
Canadian football. Canadian is like American football, but a little bit better. Better. Yeah. So hey and Edmonton Eskimos which are called Edmonton something. No, I think it's the.

00;47;43;24 - 00;47;44;10
Speaker 2
Elks.

00;47;44;20 - 00;48;08;15
Speaker 3
Elks is just terrible. Oh, bad. So unintimidating animal elk. So we were at this football game and you ever sit down if it's hot in the sun, it's just beating down on me. It's like four or 5:00. So it's like, you know, it's getting later, but it's just it was it was a warm day, zero. When I'm just sitting there, I got jeans on, which was stupid.

00;48;10;01 - 00;48;11;00
Speaker 2
But you don't look good in shorts.

00;48;11;09 - 00;48;30;12
Speaker 3
No, but I don't look in shorts when we're supposed to do so. I got a t shirt on. I'm just like, oh, my God, Pantheon, Jesus, I need a beer. And the water is something. I get up and I feel my back just sticking to the back of the seat. I'm like, Oh, like if you didn't have a shirt on and you were sitting in the seat and you kind of got up and it made that like like that stick sound.

00;48;30;16 - 00;48;52;10
Speaker 3
Yeah, that's what I had with a shirt on. Yep. So I was concerned right off the bat, we get our parents laughing. I know. It's bad. He's going right back. I got, like, a lighter green shirt on and my back is drenched. We go up to get a beer, and I just of course, you see every good looking female you ever seen in your life just suddenly decides they want to come out and they're just hanging around.

00;48;52;11 - 00;48;59;29
Speaker 3
Yeah, and I am just doing everything I can to make sure my back is not facing them. Because it looks like a fucking. It looks like a fucking wet wipe. It was so bad your.

00;48;59;29 - 00;49;01;19
Speaker 2
Crab walking against the wall.

00;49;01;19 - 00;49;04;22
Speaker 3
Oh, is bad. It was so embarrassing. Oh, my God.

00;49;04;28 - 00;49;06;00
Speaker 2
I still have that picture.

00;49;06;01 - 00;49;21;05
Speaker 3
Me too. It's funny to look back on the like. God, that was a terrible 20 minutes of waiting in line and just. Yeah, I did not look. I did not feel good. That would have been a good time to get a t shirt. I would have spent like 60 bucks to get a new t shirt at that point.

00;49;21;05 - 00;49;31;26
Speaker 3
I think part of it was not having like a very breathable t shirt that was big contributor. But yeah, that was not one of my one of my highlights for sure.

00;49;32;11 - 00;49;35;28
Speaker 2
What a great car podcast. We started off talking about beer and something else.

00;49;35;28 - 00;49;47;20
Speaker 3
And yes, this is the go to resource if you want to hear about celebrities not being able to buy cars, girl talk beer, talk in sticky, sweaty back shirts. This is this is the place to be for all of us.

00;49;47;20 - 00;49;52;21
Speaker 2
Thank you for joining the Fourth World Podcast and our next episode, we're going to talk about blankets.

00;49;52;21 - 00;50;08;06
Speaker 3
Something about that. Supposedly we talk about cars, so we'll let you know next week if that's something that happens. We sorted it out this week. But yeah, don't know. I don't know if there's anything to get anything planned next week. Not really. Most of our races and everything are in June, but as a reminder, we've got a lot of events coming up.

00;50;08;06 - 00;50;15;29
Speaker 3
We've got that off one race, which is kind of like middle June, July 1st ish, that weekend. Yep. That's when we're doing the IMSA race.

00;50;15;29 - 00;50;38;24
Speaker 2
Yeah, the Porsche Cars and coffee, which is going to be in June as well. Yeah, I think that's the name, the vintage GP. But that's the same weekend though. That's my issue with the cars and coffee and the vintage GP over June 19th, same weekend. Yeah, I'm not so I probably won't be at the cars and coffee or depending on what's going on at the vintage GP may not be at that.

00;50;38;24 - 00;50;39;14
Speaker 2
Yeah, but either.

00;50;39;14 - 00;50;45;10
Speaker 3
Way it's good. REPAK Summer. Yeah, it's gonna be packed. Summer And I'm sure we'll actually get to more car talk at some point. Yes, which is also good.

00;50;45;10 - 00;50;49;01
Speaker 2
And some exhaust talk as well, from what I hear is in the works.

00;50;49;03 - 00;50;52;10
Speaker 3
Yes, well, on a good note, as a pun.

00;50;52;24 - 00;50;54;03
Speaker 2
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

00;50;54;03 - 00;51;05;06
Speaker 3
But exhaust note, kill me. So I. Yeah, well, the talk for those of you that don't know the car I have is a C 63 with the old 6.2 liter engine.

00;51;06;00 - 00;51;08;21
Speaker 2
And what edition is it, Jason?

00;51;09;05 - 00;51;31;25
Speaker 3
It's a507 sedan. So it's it's rare. Most people could give a fuck about it, but it is rare. There's it's in the mag. No, I won't get too much into my car, but it's hard to find congratulations. Yeah, nobody cares. It's okay. But what people might care about is I've been flirting with the idea of maybe doing a long two header system or doing a secondary calculate.

00;51;31;25 - 00;51;54;21
Speaker 3
So I am pleased to announce I have got a facebook marketplace exhaust on the way. Factory exhaust reliable. That's already actually it's in good shape I'm sure now I'm just struggling. So yeah. Fuck you. So the secondary is already cut out of it. We got to put some straight pipes in it. I was going to do it myself, but I decided that there's a place in town that can actually fabricate that piece very well.

00;51;54;21 - 00;52;17;14
Speaker 3
So I'm going to have them do it. I'll see about it a little before and after action. It really depends on what the shop will let me show twice, but sound wise, yeah, that'll probably be a video we put out and it's going to be interesting to see what the volume difference is. And if it is not to my liking, we will be putting headers in and I will be getting many tickets and I'll be fine.

00;52;17;25 - 00;52;35;15
Speaker 3
Bob Carr It's just not loud enough right now. So yeah, lots of, lots of fun stuff in the work that is June 6th that is happening. I got pushed back a little bit. So June is going to be a crazy, crazy month. Hopefully video is popping by then. We're working on that, working on some big stuff with some big people.

00;52;36;01 - 00;52;41;28
Speaker 3
And yeah, it's it's a fun time. It's a fun time for us right now. So, yeah.

00;52;42;05 - 00;52;54;19
Speaker 2
We're excited to have you along for the ride and we're excited to continue the science. So thank you very much for joining us for episode two. Yeah, and we'll see you next time.

00;52;54;19 - 00;53;23;25
Speaker 4
So don't get into cooking, cooking or even try. Oh, no, we ain't got nothing.