Forza World Podcast - A Forza Horizon Podcast

Smart Cars Stink

June 24, 2022 Jason McArthur, Aren Glover, Andrew Lennon Episode 4
Forza World Podcast - A Forza Horizon Podcast
Smart Cars Stink
Show Notes Transcript

On episode 4 of the Forza World Podcast, we introduce the third member of the show, Andrew! He gives us an introduction of himself and his recent car mods, as well as some sunburn and golf talk. The trio discuss the massive news in the Forza universe with the announcement of the Forza Horizon 5 Hot Wheels Expansion, as well as new details and media for the Forza Motorsport reboot. There is also some comparison of the two trailers for these announcements, and how different the approach is between Playground Games and Turn 10. We get into a recap of some motorsport and F1 news. The boys also have some science talk (yes, actual facts!) about synthetic fuels and how it may impact the world of cars and motorsport. Complaint Corner for this week is Pineapple on Pizza, and F*** That Car is none other than the Smart Car and... let's just say we were less than kind to it and the first hand owners.

Apologies for the audio quality this week!

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Speaker 1
Hello everyone and welcome to Episode four, The Forza World Podcast. My name is Aaron. I have Jason here with me. And finally, after much puppetry with all the S and everything else, just because we are idiots, we finally have Andrew here. Andrew, welcome.

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Speaker 2
Oh, what's up, guys? It's been too long for me to be able to get on here. But finally I made it up.

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Speaker 3
And so it took a bit. Took a bit. We're obviously pretty tech.

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Speaker 4
Savvy, so. Pain in the ass. Andrew, you're about, what, 600 kilometers away?

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. It's like a solid. I don't know, like, uh, like eight hour drive, I think, to. To even just to London.

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Speaker 3
So. Yeah.

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Speaker 4
So we don't get paid enough for him to come down and do a live recording. So.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, no, he's not with gas at 220 a liter and all.

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Speaker 4
I know your car doesn't need premium, does it?

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Speaker 2
Oh, yeah, it's 10 to 93 and then even my truck is like I spent 1200 dollars last month. The guy.

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Speaker 3
Who actually just test my.

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Speaker 2
Truck and like going like it's insane that.

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Speaker 1
But yeah, I know it's it's it's good to good to get talking because I think, Andrew, last time you and I talked was what the Grand Prix that was the, the old Grand Prix. It was Port 29.

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Speaker 4
Yeah.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. 29. Oh we.

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Speaker 2
Already man. Yeah. Well, but I mean it's going to be soon enough like. MAN Two weeks and we'll be seeing each other.

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Speaker 3
Yes, exactly. Yes it is. Two weeks to. Yeah, yeah. Came up quick dude.

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Speaker 4
Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. Are you burnt at all today, Jason?

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Speaker 3
I'm a little.

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Speaker 4
Burnt a little? Yeah, I'm a little burnt. We got the golf's going today minor and we're golfing a little bit. We were both very inconsistent to the point where Aaron had this immaculate drive after just many balls shunted into the.

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Speaker 1
Woods, into the woods, in the water.

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Speaker 3
It is awful water.

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Speaker 4
Yeah. And he had just this perfect seeing eye swing and it was with our buddies, like brand new driver, whatever. I have never seen anybody have a negative reaction to, like, a really good swing. This kid's sitting.

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Speaker 3
There, fuck, fuck us. Because after all this time, he's been using these pawnshop.

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Speaker 4
Clubs and.

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Speaker 3
Then he finally gets a good club, not even one practice swing. This guy just brings it onto the greens.

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Speaker 1
So it was like that, that one short par three where I was like, Well, every single other time I've tried to drive it, I've come up short, so I'm going to try and drive it again. And I went way over the hole.

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Speaker 4
I went over to choosing a nine iron and he's like, You know what? I can't hit anything today. I'm this my driver, and he just puts it on like two holes.

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Speaker 1
Over an absolute piss missile. And it went over the hole, over the trees into the middle of nowhere. So it was on.

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Speaker 3
A par three. Three. Yeah. Oh, it's.

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Speaker 1
Like not every, every single time I tried to hit it, it was like, oh, I made it 150 yards with a driver. And then this one, it was just an absolute bullet. And yeah, it was no.

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Speaker 4
Overall, not a good time actually speaking a not a good time. I got a text from Mr. Andrew today about this civic man you've got to.

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Speaker 3
Tell.

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Speaker 4
Us have explain, give us a little backstory on what this car is, because it's faster than mine. But as far as point A to point B, reliability, I don't know, man. This is looking like an early 2022 red Bull like F1 car, basically.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, it is a Honda motor. I guess so.

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Speaker 3
Fuck it. So yeah I it's like a so.

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Speaker 2
It's a 99 Civic with it was reliable up until I basically started building the motor like I had a CRV motor in it like a B 24, all the Honda boys just stock not really known for like holding high power. And that's probably why it was reliable because low power, like whatever it was always like super good. Reliable.

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Speaker 2
No problems with a beat on it all the time. Now I have basically a dull motor. It'll hold like six, 16 horsepower and I just have had so many problems with men since. They're just like getting it together. I, first of all started like, started it up just was passing oil everywhere. And I thought it looked like it was coming out of the where the oil pump is, which is like never happens on those things ever.

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Speaker 2
And I was like, what though? And like sealed it properly, everything.

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Speaker 4
RTV Well, because you thought it was like an O-ring ring or something, right? That it failed.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, I was an O-ring and I remember checking it like, this is sick and even just put our TV over just to be safe there. So I was like, What the hell? And like had to take off like the complete, like all my terrible manifold down pipe. Like, drop the oil pan, pull the timing belt off everything, pulled the oil pump off and it was a little plug for the block, like one of the oil like or forces or whatever in the block.

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Speaker 2
It was like loose that I didn't tighten back up when I bought my power, watch the engine. And it would have taken me like 15 minutes to tighten this thing, like to get everything off, to tighten it. And it was like already like fucking 2 hours in when like everything apart when I noticed this.

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Speaker 4
So 2 hours in and you say goodbye to all your oil, which is now in your driveway.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. I'm lucky enough that I like.

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Speaker 2
I bought two jugs at oil because I was like it was on sale, actually a Canadian tire, if I can. A tire for their weekly oil sales.

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Speaker 3
No free ads. No free ads. And that's okay. The idea.

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Speaker 2
And I was like, no, at least I like had that because I could still start it up and like check it and everything. But, and then like the next day go to like fire it up and like I.

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Speaker 3
Do like.

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Speaker 2
All my own tuning everything too, so just load it up a map or whatever. And it was just, it's just been idling like absolute garbage lately. And I can't figure it out for the life of me. And I was trying all this stuff and then I ended up selling the plug. So it was like down a hole and it was just a nightmare today.

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Speaker 2
But it took me a couple of hours. And then finally today I got it driving. Good, but it just idles like shit still. And it's driving me actually insane. So.

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Speaker 1
So what engine do you have in it right now?

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Speaker 2
Andrew So it's a, it's a B series, so it's kind of old, old, older school for all the kind of guys that know about it. It's like a 90, it has a 96 Integra Non VTEC block and then it's got a G forged pistons speed factory rods in it, which are like rated for like 800 horsepower and then their head studs and then a integra GSR vtec head.

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Speaker 2
So you can do like a conversion basically to run a non vtec block with a VTEC head. I was making around like 350 on my old setup with like stock block and now it's built so to be should be able to hold like 500 like all day.

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Speaker 3
So this was pretty nasty.

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Speaker 1
This is the most technical our car podcast has ever been. So this is.

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Speaker 3
That's true.

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Speaker 1
Considering the other week we stirred started talking about squirrels for what, the first five, 10 minutes, we had a.

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Speaker 3
Good 3 minutes of squirrel talk. Oh yeah. Squirrel talking bird talk. Yeah. Yeah. We've got read into.

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Speaker 4
The stats this week.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. No it's good, it's good. Right into the car talk. Apart from being burnt off. Yes. New new news. New news.

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Speaker 3
Oh, we have news.

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Speaker 1
We have. You have news. So first I want to start off with the for as a site for the update of their website. What do you.

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Speaker 4
Doesn't sound like a big deal.

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Speaker 3
Okay. No, it doesn't sound like a big deal. It doesn't sound like a big deal.

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Speaker 4
It is because they were running this antiquated piece of crap site from 2012 Forza Motorsport dot net. Even though the resource horizon stuff on there was for the most part not net. It was confusing anyways. I don't know. It never. It was kind of clunky, you know what I mean. Was kind of not that responsive, was slow and there's no reason to go to the site and I don't know, they changed it for the dot net.

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Speaker 4
Now it's really quick. It's super zippy man.

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Speaker 3
I don't know.

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Speaker 4
Yeah, it's clean. It's clean. I feel like something's going to go in there. Like I feel like there's going to be a reason to go to that site more often. I don't know. It just seems way too good. So, no, that's exciting.

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Speaker 3
But imagine if you're listening to this, get the.

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Speaker 2
Shop back up.

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Speaker 1
There. I was going to say, imagine if they put like a merchant.

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Speaker 4
I would be interested in that. I would spend a lot of my money.

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Speaker 3
You're sitting there.

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Speaker 2
Listening to the old podcast.

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Speaker 3
Oh, yeah, yeah. It's it's almost like they listen to the for the world and hope. All I'm saying is if they get a.

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Speaker 4
Merch store going, they better get Afterpay on there because I want 0% payments on $900 worth of forced merge. That's that's all I have to say on the matter dude.

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Speaker 2
Afterpay is actually so clutch bag.

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Speaker 4
Oh, it's so clutch.

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Speaker 3
Men don't miss a payment.

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Speaker 4
They'll miss a payment but.

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Speaker 3
It's very clutch.

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Speaker 4
Otherwise. But not at the merch store. I mean, I can kind of see that happening and I kind of hope we get ours up first. Spoiler alert, but for those of you listening to this, listening to us ramble about nonsense things you want to hear about this Hot Wheels pack.

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Speaker 1
And I.

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Speaker 4
Want to talk about those Hot Wheels problem is, this thing looks like a heater of an expansion. I don't know. There's ten new cars coming. Don't ask me what they are. I know there's a Hennessey in there. I know there was a cool Camaro and I know there was a couple other cool things. The are two Hot Wheels car.

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Speaker 4
Everybody knows that car. You don't know the name of it. You've seen it. It's the surfboard van thing from when everybody was kids.

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Speaker 3
But the pack looks sick. It does. It does.

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Speaker 4
It looks like all of the good parts of Forza Horizon three version. So just general, you know what I mean? Just bomb around mindlessly put on some good music. Not that there is any.

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Speaker 3
And.

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Speaker 4
Just have some fun with it. Right? I would imagine there's a cool little like building element to it as well. I can't confirm that, but I would imagine that's part of it. And there's snow in it too, which seems like a great idea. And I don't know, it's just give me a lot of fun, man. It just doesn't have to be overcomplicated.

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Speaker 4
Like it doesn't have to be this crazy pack with all these different things to do and what do you call it? Challenges and races and all this crap. Contrary to what we've been saying, every other podcast where there needs to be direction, I think with this one you don't really want there to be any direction.

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Speaker 3
You just want to have.

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Speaker 4
Some fun, man.

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Speaker 2
That's just like a hop on, have fun with the boys kind of expansion, man. It's like.

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Speaker 3
Yeah.

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Speaker 4
Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3
Oh, could you imagine multiplayer on this? I don't.

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Speaker 4
Even think of.

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Speaker 3
That experience.

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Speaker 2
It's all like mini games you can run into.

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Speaker 3
It's sick. Yeah.

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Speaker 4
Oh, I didn't think of mini games either. You could definitely. I bet you they'd done that. I bet you they have eliminated a bunch of. Cool. Yeah, I bet you there's a bunch of really cool stuff with that. I least hope.

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Speaker 2
I'm hoping. Yeah that'd be.

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Speaker 3
I'm thinking dribbling.

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Speaker 1
Playground games would be really cool. Yeah. In the Hot Wheels expansion but yeah I think, you know when when they came out with the Hot Wheels expansion in Horizon three, it was a very underrated car pack or expansion pack because it it was mindless. It was something where you could just go and do whatever you wanted. And there was there was no general direction.

00;11;26;19 - 00;11;40;08
Speaker 1
But the map was fun enough that you weren't bored of it. Yeah. And now with this one about a party to music did play a part. Yes. Oh, because that was music. How did how did you feel about the music choice in the trailer.

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Speaker 4
Oh Aaron, I caught some flack for this. I put in the comments of that video that I believe I put. The puke emoji is what I did for reference. In reference to the soundtrack I.

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Speaker 3
Did this on Twitter, on.

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Speaker 1
Instagram.

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Speaker 4
On Instagram, and then I did the sounds. I didn't like it. It was this weird somewhere over the rainbow thing I did. I don't even want to, like, insert it right here. Like, sometimes we insert little sound clips. I'm not even going to do that to you guys. It was so bad. I don't know. I just feel like we've been ragging on the past couple of weeks about how good TLC videos used to be and the potential that they had and the song choices that they made.

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Speaker 4
They were killer. And then you come out with this punk rock thing that there's some sort of sentimentality here for some folks where they're saying, Oh, it's a good callback. You know.

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Speaker 3
What?

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Speaker 4
It's it sucked, man. I don't know what to tell you. Like, there's, like, three guys is like, the only people in the world that know that song.

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Speaker 3
Yeah.

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Speaker 4
That never defending it. I think it becomes indefensible, too, because you look at what the motorsport video look like.

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Speaker 3
And what it sounded like when you pick Jay-Z. And it's like.

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Speaker 4
That's a hard one to top, man. And if you're consciously picking Jay-Z as you're, you know, as the music.

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Speaker 1
But what I don't think is one of the things that we've noticed is there's a huge difference between the motorsport team and the Horizon team.

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Speaker 2
There is that the motorsport team is really making the Horizon team look bad after that trailer.

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Speaker 1
Oh, well, it just in general, like the motorsport in general. In general, the motorsport team knows what they've been doing. They know what to release, they know how to release it. They know the audience that they're going for. And I feel, which is that. And yeah, yeah, I feel that since Horizon two, like Horizon three and beyond, the Horizon team just hasn't had the traction.

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Speaker 1
I think they're trying too hard to bring in new players that they're forgetting that the players that they've had since the beginning are still very much playing the game and they're the ones that are going to be introducing new players. So there's always going to be that consistent flip of people. But I get it. You're trying to market to a younger crowd, but don't I think in the new economy.

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Speaker 4
Andrew said it the best. Right. Like I think it's apparent in those videos. Yes. I think in those two packs, the videos alone, you can tell they just get it because the one was a Jay-Z video. It was a banger. It was great angles. It was simple. It was just sick. It didn't have any text, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4
The Horizon one opened with all these different like, oh, look at our accolades. Look get we like this many players for the just opened motor sport sorry it just opened.

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Speaker 1
Allow me to six months myself.

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Speaker 4
Nasty.

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Speaker 3
Nasty songs Royce subtle like it's not that hard.

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Speaker 4
And I don't think it'd be interesting to know just how different the teams are between those promo releases. Like maybe it is the same team and we're just stupid, but I just feel like there's no way that could be the case because they were polar opposite videos.

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Speaker 3
You know what?

00;14;46;29 - 00;15;00;20
Speaker 4
And it's not a polar opposite person that's going to be playing the game. We played both. So why is that completely targeted differently that way? It makes me think that the team that's coming up with it, you know, it's just going into it with a completely different frame of mind.

00;15;01;00 - 00;15;25;26
Speaker 1
You know what theory, man? You know what the new motorsport video reminds me of? Like that announcement trailer. It reminds me of the announcement trailer for Forza Motorsport four. That's how pissed it is. It is. But keep in mind, we haven't had a motorsport game in a very, very long time. The song choice was perfect. The clips that they used were beyond exciting.

00;15;27;09 - 00;15;41;10
Speaker 1
They teased a lot of really great cars in that trailer and it just it got me so excited for a motorsport game and I haven't been this excited for a motorsport game since Motorsport four and I.

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Speaker 3
Say five.

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Speaker 4
Five. I was excited for yeah, I was pumped up for it let me down but I was excited for it just.

00;15;48;16 - 00;15;49;01
Speaker 3
Well it did.

00;15;49;18 - 00;15;54;02
Speaker 4
But it was, it was the first game on Xbox One. Yeah. So everybody was pumped up about it. Like, I mean, the ground.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, that's true, man. That's true.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, I was fired up and.

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Speaker 4
Then you had like 13 cars to play with and six tracks, and I was like, Oh, this is really dumb.

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Speaker 3
Actually. Yeah. I wish they still.

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Speaker 2
I want to bring back that like Fiji. Malin or Fiji from Forza four.

00;16;08;04 - 00;16;17;15
Speaker 3
Though downhill track because you mean title is that was cool yeah yeah yeah yeah. So I just had to bring it up in there.

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Speaker 2
Oh man. Been like it. Just like a JDM kind of guy, man. That was like, my.

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Speaker 3
That was me.

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Speaker 1
It's probably going to be in there.

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Speaker 3
Oh, you have some. Is that.

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Speaker 4
A hint.

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Speaker 3
That isn't.

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Speaker 4
There?

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Speaker 1
That is very much a hint.

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Speaker 3
Oh, okay, that's cool. We will see. That's also we'll say, okay, it's okay. There you go, Andrew.

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Speaker 4
You can potentially look forward to that too, seeing.

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Speaker 3
That.

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Speaker 2
I'll be buying it immediately.

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Speaker 4
Hundred percent, actually. Actually, I think it goes to game pass day one, right?

00;16;52;19 - 00;16;59;19
Speaker 1
I think so. Day one, it'll pass. I think if you preorder, you might get early access. I don't know if they're going to be doing that, but.

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Speaker 4
I'll probably get the two men.

00;17;02;25 - 00;17;04;10
Speaker 1
Yeah, that has yet to be announced.

00;17;05;06 - 00;17;06;15
Speaker 2
That would literally be.

00;17;06;18 - 00;17;07;06
Speaker 1
Past day one.

00;17;07;26 - 00;17;29;06
Speaker 2
That would be the first more support that I've gotten since five. I think honestly, just because like we're like you're staying like none of the other ones really got me that hyped up to buy them. Like after five, dude, I just never really was, like, really committed to doing it. And like, after you, you sent me that trailer, I was like, this is actually going to be unreal.

00;17;29;08 - 00;17;41;22
Speaker 4
Oh, yeah, man. I think six was, what, five should have been. I really like six, but it just felt late. And then seven. Well, Aaron knows it took me like a year and a half to buy seven.

00;17;41;26 - 00;17;43;01
Speaker 3
It did take.

00;17;43;01 - 00;17;43;15
Speaker 1
You a long.

00;17;43;15 - 00;18;03;29
Speaker 4
I just. I didn't care. Like I played it and. I don't know, I just like a blank stare, man. I was like, This doesn't do it for me. Like, I don't care. Like, there's not really a reason to play this other than to race. Like, I missed the event list stuff, man. I missed those awesome endurance races. I just miss those.

00;18;03;29 - 00;18;07;24
Speaker 4
Like the tile set up that you have got in, like Forza Motorsport Motorsport four.

00;18;07;26 - 00;18;09;24
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. And three and three. Three had it.

00;18;09;24 - 00;18;27;10
Speaker 4
But I missed that sort of linear way of looking at things of like, this is the kind of event I want, let's check them off instead of just let's just race around and I get a couple of perks and I can get some upgrades and all this different stuff and a couple crates and level up. Like, I don't care.

00;18;27;21 - 00;18;33;22
Speaker 4
I want a list of things that I need to complete and I want eventually to look at my console one day and be like, Yep, I'm done.

00;18;34;02 - 00;18;57;02
Speaker 1
And you know what? I really hope I'm really hoping for this in the new mode, in the new motorsport game. But do you remember in Motorsport four when you started with a small compact economy car and it was like, these are the only events that you can enter in until you buy something else, not until you do a wheel spin and you magically get a McLaren P1 and you're like, Oh, look at that.

00;18;57;02 - 00;19;11;20
Speaker 1
Now I can do everything. It's the restrictions of, you know, these events. You have to drive a car that has a three cylinder. These ones you have to drive a car that has a five cylinder, this one. And would you rather have a narrower above engine car?

00;19;11;20 - 00;19;12;22
Speaker 4
Yeah, stuff like that.

00;19;13;00 - 00;19;15;04
Speaker 3
Very specific. Remember that Inuvik?

00;19;15;05 - 00;19;26;27
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. Dude, I do miss that, I should say. I would just think about like the, just like the B class C class stuff that you're always doing, you know? I mean, like moving up there at the beginning, it's almost like the most fun like racing to in.

00;19;26;27 - 00;19;27;14
Speaker 3
My area for.

00;19;27;19 - 00;19;28;13
Speaker 4
It to be in that. Yeah.

00;19;28;13 - 00;19;30;10
Speaker 2
When they first Yeah. It's actually sick.

00;19;30;13 - 00;19;30;20
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;19;30;21 - 00;19;38;16
Speaker 4
Because you find those cars in the B class, in the C class and you're like oh my God. Like the well actually the big one for me. What's it called, the Alfa Romeo Brera.

00;19;38;17 - 00;19;41;20
Speaker 3
Oh yeah, yeah. I love.

00;19;41;20 - 00;19;43;02
Speaker 4
That car. And for motorsport.

00;19;43;03 - 00;19;46;28
Speaker 1
You can import that into Canada now because it is 15 years old.

00;19;46;28 - 00;19;47;11
Speaker 3
Legally.

00;19;48;07 - 00;19;51;20
Speaker 4
That's right. That's right. I don't know if I would do it. It is a little.

00;19;51;20 - 00;19;54;12
Speaker 3
Bit of an alpha and it is an alpha.

00;19;54;12 - 00;20;13;00
Speaker 4
So there's no guarantee you would start when you get it over here. But that was a set car that I honestly can say if it was in like, let's just set back the clocks. If we were playing Horizon five and it was my first game ever and the Brera was in the game, I can honestly tell you I would never drive the Brera once.

00;20;13;09 - 00;20;21;08
Speaker 4
I'd have no reason to restart the game with like the most unreal cars. So why would I drive some C class poverty car?

00;20;22;12 - 00;20;22;28
Speaker 3
You know what I mean?

00;20;22;28 - 00;20;25;24
Speaker 4
When you've got all these other options, it just doesn't make sense. If you.

00;20;25;25 - 00;20;26;14
Speaker 3
Spend, there's no.

00;20;26;14 - 00;20;28;24
Speaker 4
Obligation to play certain classes, so.

00;20;28;25 - 00;20;45;07
Speaker 1
You start at the very bottom like you did in motorsport four, where they give you an F class like it was F, it was f, f was the lowest. Now D class is the lowest. Like if they give you a and you're like all you get to choose this Toyota Aygo, which is an F class car. And those.

00;20;45;07 - 00;20;46;10
Speaker 3
Races work for you.

00;20;46;10 - 00;20;49;01
Speaker 4
Man, because you be like 68 kilometers an hour.

00;20;49;22 - 00;20;56;01
Speaker 3
More with the back of the car and you get the top of it. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, those were fun. Like it.

00;20;56;01 - 00;20;59;16
Speaker 2
I actually like that, man. Like I thought I think like I know obviously like you.

00;20;59;25 - 00;20;59;27
Speaker 3
Know.

00;21;00;09 - 00;21;17;22
Speaker 2
The appeal the for the is like obviously you can rip all these cars that like are so like unattainable like to a lot of people. Yeah. Like there's something just about it being like, like relatable. It's like the all the KD class cars where you just rip in like a civic AC or whatever, you know, they really.

00;21;17;23 - 00;21;19;07
Speaker 4
It's a car you'd see every day.

00;21;19;18 - 00;21;24;12
Speaker 2
Yeah. It's just, I don't know. And that to me it's like I think I thought it was like one of my favorite things. But for the, for.

00;21;24;27 - 00;21;40;09
Speaker 4
I think the big part of that too, and I hope they do have it in the next game, is they forced you to do it like you had to experience those cars. It wasn't an option. Yeah, it was an option. But there came a point in a lot of these games when it was like.

00;21;40;23 - 00;21;41;13
Speaker 3
Option.

00;21;41;13 - 00;22;02;16
Speaker 4
Option you're doing this event, it has to be a for sale, you know what I mean? Naturally aspirated for sale or something like that. Figure it out, right? Or there was a lot of other cool ones too, where you had to pick a certain car, so you picked like a civic mugen or something like that, and everybody had that right.

00;22;02;16 - 00;22;04;26
Speaker 4
It was locked, so there was no upgrades. It was.

00;22;05;29 - 00;22;06;06
Speaker 3
Just.

00;22;06;06 - 00;22;07;08
Speaker 2
Doing race craft.

00;22;07;16 - 00;22;40;21
Speaker 4
Those were good too, because everybody is in the same boat and it came down purely to driver. That was it. So I think with the new driver type of stuff, I would imagine they take some pretty decent leaps forward with that. I, I don't know, just here in the way a lot of these guys are talking from the turn ten team, it sounds like they're going to like a mix of going back to their roots and then fixing what was kind of wrong anyways or lacking I guess is a better term because they basically made close to a perfect game before you just kind of have to add in a lot of these new elements

00;22;40;21 - 00;23;01;05
Speaker 4
that you see and I think they'll nail it, man. I mean, show it to them because they've done a pretty crazy job working through a pandemic, trying to get this game ready. This is how many years in the making and oh geez, it's got to be six. Like, there's got to be more years we don't know about. But I think publicly this info has been out for three years, right?

00;23;01;05 - 00;23;09;20
Speaker 1
I think so because Forza Motorsport seven released or to that release.

00;23;10;00 - 00;23;11;09
Speaker 4
I think it might have been 18 then.

00;23;11;27 - 00;23;13;24
Speaker 2
I was going to say I think it's 2018.

00;23;13;26 - 00;23;19;01
Speaker 1
But it was with the 82 RS 17, 2017. Okay.

00;23;19;24 - 00;23;22;09
Speaker 3
So five years. So they've definitely been working on it.

00;23;22;09 - 00;23;30;00
Speaker 4
Longer than that too for sure. Like, like they've known roughly how this game was going to go for longer than seven.

00;23;30;12 - 00;23;30;21
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;23;30;27 - 00;23;41;23
Speaker 4
And I don't know, they've just always been called us. That studio's always been called us. I don't know. I mean, I'm just pumped to play it. It's going to be like March or something. I don't know. It said spring release. So we'll see what that ends up. Meaning.

00;23;42;04 - 00;23;42;12
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;23;43;08 - 00;23;49;29
Speaker 4
But I want to play that game. I want you play that game. I want to play the Hot Wheels PAC and I want to continue to complain, too.

00;23;50;13 - 00;24;03;09
Speaker 1
I want to I really want to sit down. I think the Hot Wheels car park is going to be a good it's a good pack to sit down with a bottle of Vanilla Coke and a pineapple pizza.

00;24;03;17 - 00;24;09;13
Speaker 4
Oh, no, not a pie. Okay, so hang on. So that segways into anything. What do you.

00;24;09;14 - 00;24;14;07
Speaker 1
Yes, what do you have? Okay, hold on. We're going to do the Segway. Cue the music.

00;24;14;25 - 00;24;15;09
Speaker 4
The music.

00;24;15;09 - 00;24;21;12
Speaker 1
And Jason's complete. Okay. What do you have against pineapple on pizza this week?

00;24;21;19 - 00;24;41;02
Speaker 4
Well, it's a fun it's a funny thing. So I don't have anything against pineapple on pizza. In fact, I love it. So my favorite things to about pizza now do to me to people listening to this show right now there's gonna be people that are going to be, you know, right on my side. And there's other people that may be screaming in their cars stuck in traffic that I am some sort of muppet because I like pineapple on my pizza.

00;24;41;02 - 00;24;42;01
Speaker 4
And you know what I have to say to you?

00;24;42;10 - 00;24;43;01
Speaker 3
Fuck you.

00;24;43;08 - 00;24;45;21
Speaker 4
Because I can't stand this week.

00;24;45;21 - 00;24;47;14
Speaker 3
People who complain about.

00;24;47;14 - 00;24;49;12
Speaker 4
Pineapple being on a pizza.

00;24;49;25 - 00;24;53;23
Speaker 3
The people complain about it. I'm not saying you can like it or not like it.

00;24;54;01 - 00;25;09;25
Speaker 4
There's just this whole personality trait that is, I don't know, equivalent people who are into crystals and zodiac signs and everything. It's like some big mistake if you like pineapple on pizza or you do or you don't is telling somehow. I hate it. I hate you.

00;25;10;00 - 00;25;16;06
Speaker 3
Just eat it and shut up. It is good. It is good. And if you don't think it is, you probably put some sort of swirl.

00;25;16;06 - 00;25;17;10
Speaker 4
Toppings on your.

00;25;17;10 - 00;25;21;13
Speaker 3
Pizza. Like you probably do it like a green pepper, green pepper, mushroom, anchovy.

00;25;21;19 - 00;25;25;15
Speaker 4
Black all of pizza, awesome shadow, black olives, fucking terrible on pizza.

00;25;25;17 - 00;25;37;28
Speaker 3
I don't want to hear it that it should be a that should be the argument all lives on a pizza. Oh that doesn't make any sense to me. No, it's really just 14 things that are better on a pizza than all is. And people who actively go to the way maybe. Okay, double.

00;25;37;28 - 00;25;41;10
Speaker 4
Complain, corner olives on pizza fucking stinks. It stinks.

00;25;41;10 - 00;25;42;07
Speaker 3
A red flag.

00;25;43;03 - 00;25;46;20
Speaker 1
Pineapples and green olives on pizza. Really good combination.

00;25;47;26 - 00;25;51;15
Speaker 4
All right, listen, I want to discontinue the show after hearing that stuff.

00;25;52;02 - 00;25;55;24
Speaker 3
You know, I don't like it's just it's bad. There's so many.

00;25;55;24 - 00;26;06;08
Speaker 4
Better options than olives, but that's not the main complaint here. The main complaint is if you go out of your way to, like, make some sort of comment about, oh, either pineapple should be on pizza. Yeah.

00;26;06;21 - 00;26;07;07
Speaker 3
That's your whole.

00;26;07;07 - 00;26;08;14
Speaker 2
Personality. Like, come on.

00;26;09;00 - 00;26;13;23
Speaker 3
If that's your personality, yeah, come on. So it's just the banded together thing about it.

00;26;13;24 - 00;26;16;22
Speaker 1
You don't mind if they don't like it, you just don't know who complained about.

00;26;16;22 - 00;26;23;08
Speaker 4
Not exactly. Exactly. It's a topping. Get over it. It is good. And if you don't think it is, that's fine.

00;26;23;12 - 00;26;26;20
Speaker 3
But I don't want to have to hear about that. Okay, well, I'm.

00;26;26;28 - 00;26;29;11
Speaker 4
Definitely not a hotshot just because.

00;26;29;11 - 00;26;37;15
Speaker 3
Oh, you have such an interesting personality because you don't like pineapple on pizza. Like, honestly, your favorite pizza is probably Pizza Hut, right?

00;26;38;15 - 00;26;47;14
Speaker 4
Like that's probably how this goes. The same people who complain about that don't like gourmet pizza to begin with. So why do I want your opinion anyways? I hate it. That's my complaint for this week.

00;26;48;04 - 00;26;52;05
Speaker 3
I just honestly shut up and eat the food. That's all I hear you definitely.

00;26;52;05 - 00;26;55;29
Speaker 2
Drama V6 version of a muscle car. If you complained about.

00;26;55;29 - 00;26;59;16
Speaker 3
One 100%, you drive the Mustang even.

00;26;59;19 - 00;27;02;24
Speaker 4
Saying that SUV just stink.

00;27;02;24 - 00;27;04;06
Speaker 3
Vehicle what was that called again?

00;27;04;08 - 00;27;09;11
Speaker 4
The Marky Mark e Mustang. You do have a mark e mustang dude fun is.

00;27;09;20 - 00;27;24;06
Speaker 2
Fun fact about that my buddy bought one it literally bricked itself within a month and he had to train it in three actual full gas cars. So I mean unreal biofuels of the future, not fucking TV. So let's get that.

00;27;24;06 - 00;27;27;18
Speaker 3
I agree. I agree. Biofuels. That will be a thing, man.

00;27;27;28 - 00;27;28;20
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah.

00;27;28;20 - 00;27;31;15
Speaker 4
Porsche out here on that, man. I think that's the future.

00;27;31;16 - 00;27;33;17
Speaker 2
Everyone start investing now.

00;27;33;17 - 00;27;35;24
Speaker 3
That's that's going to be like, man.

00;27;35;24 - 00;27;40;01
Speaker 2
Porsche has been big on it, man. I've seen it recently. I'm stoked. I'm stoked. Yeah.

00;27;40;02 - 00;27;52;05
Speaker 4
We were talking about that Porsche had like a big $15 million investment not long ago into synthetic fuel. And for those of you that don't know, synthetic fuel is usually made out of hydro. I want to.

00;27;52;05 - 00;27;52;14
Speaker 3
Say.

00;27;53;07 - 00;28;13;07
Speaker 4
It's basically I don't know. I don't really know how to explain it. I'm not an engineer, but it comes from basically super heating water. I think that's I'm correct in saying that it makes like a synthetic fuel that's the equivalent to like 99 octane. And you can use all the equivalent pumps at gas stations, everything works fine with them.

00;28;13;13 - 00;28;29;21
Speaker 4
It works with like 90 or 80% of the existing refineries, like in the machinery and everything that they have and all the processing plant stuff. I don't know, man. I just think people are crazy. If you really think the likes of Mobile and Shell and Esso and Sunoco, they're just going to like say, oh.

00;28;30;08 - 00;28;31;01
Speaker 3
I sorry.

00;28;31;01 - 00;28;48;19
Speaker 4
Elon Musk when like there's no way they're going to try something then like they're way too big to just roll over and die. They'll wait until the absolute last minute when they have to do something and then it'll switch over because you can keep all the existing infrastructure. It's cheaper, it's better for the environment too, that you don't have to change all this stuff.

00;28;49;00 - 00;28;51;16
Speaker 2
Yeah, no. Huge lithium mines everywhere fill the battery.

00;28;51;16 - 00;29;04;17
Speaker 4
Exactly, dude. Yeah. What you going to do when you dispose of it, too? I like electric cars, but not on a scale like that. And if it allows people to keep their existing stuff too, I mean, that's just so many more cars on the road that don't need to just get scrapped.

00;29;04;27 - 00;29;11;27
Speaker 1
So I just googled how synthetic fuels are made and I'm going to try and make very complicated. I'm going to try and break it down. So they.

00;29;12;10 - 00;29;13;02
Speaker 3
Are easier with a.

00;29;13;02 - 00;29;16;17
Speaker 4
Diagram. Easier with a diagram of Instagram. Yeah, big time.

00;29;16;22 - 00;29;37;04
Speaker 1
So what they do is they take water, they pull the hydrogen out of the water, so they separate it and basically evaporate the water, separate the hydrogen and the oxygen. And then they combine carbon dioxide with hydrogen, and then that results in synthetic fuel, which can be gasoline, diesel.

00;29;38;06 - 00;29;40;03
Speaker 4
Cars basically like crude oil at that point.

00;29;40;03 - 00;29;40;19
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah.

00;29;41;15 - 00;29;46;00
Speaker 1
But basically they, they take hydrogen and then they shove it full of carbon.

00;29;46;15 - 00;29;50;08
Speaker 3
Yeah. And the cool part, the cool part about that.

00;29;50;27 - 00;30;07;20
Speaker 4
Is you can use renewable energy to get to that point. So during that whole process you don't need like a ton of energy. You can use it from solar or wind showed it wind energy for being fucking useless. But you can, you can do it. So it's really cool because you can still use renewable energies during that part.

00;30;07;25 - 00;30;12;18
Speaker 4
And I believe it burns clean, man. I believe there's like almost no emissions out of the car from it.

00;30;13;02 - 00;30;16;12
Speaker 1
I would be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised at all.

00;30;17;07 - 00;30;21;05
Speaker 4
I don't know. Did your investing portfolios out and stuff?

00;30;21;05 - 00;30;22;20
Speaker 3
You have a financial.

00;30;23;05 - 00;30;27;08
Speaker 4
If you have a financial guy, tell him to do it. If you don't get a financial guy and say.

00;30;27;08 - 00;30;28;01
Speaker 3
Listen, he's doing.

00;30;28;20 - 00;30;31;09
Speaker 4
This is what I want to do. I don't want to go into any of this other crap.

00;30;31;16 - 00;30;32;26
Speaker 3
Just reporting.

00;30;32;26 - 00;30;36;16
Speaker 1
Their turnaround news. I'm like, imagine how much it'll do.

00;30;36;17 - 00;30;41;09
Speaker 4
You imagine if you could bring back like V Ten's an F1.

00;30;41;09 - 00;30;42;07
Speaker 1
Formula One or.

00;30;42;07 - 00;30;45;05
Speaker 4
Even and then use that as an excuse to develop synthetic fuels.

00;30;45;05 - 00;30;48;15
Speaker 3
It's like, well, we need the big engines back. Even in limos.

00;30;48;15 - 00;31;05;02
Speaker 1
Even in LMD or even in Formula One, where you're just like, Oh yeah, we're going to have a race. And instead of having you know, a four cylinder diesel that's turbocharged and supercharged, we're going to bring back V12 because they.

00;31;05;03 - 00;31;29;18
Speaker 4
Yeah, because the name of the game. The name of the game with motorsport for it has always been this is an outlet to develop future technologies for the road, things like that that eventually we see on the road. Correct. So if this could be a test and so instead of testing things like stop, start, stop technology, kinetic braking and all that, if we can have it so we're testing the fuel systems.

00;31;29;26 - 00;31;38;25
Speaker 4
I could already say it out loud. Totally see the big engines coming back, like just to burn fuel for the hell of it, right?

00;31;38;25 - 00;31;45;22
Speaker 1
Yeah. Like because it's why not? Can you make enough to produce? It's going to be if it's a clean source then yeah. You make.

00;31;45;22 - 00;31;48;16
Speaker 4
A net zero emissions V12 like could you.

00;31;48;16 - 00;31;49;13
Speaker 3
Do it without the.

00;31;49;13 - 00;32;03;21
Speaker 2
Sounds alone and just the sounds alone to like bring like it's Formula One now they're faster or whatever like it. You just can't beat the fucking sound man of the three tens like, yeah, the V6 turbos are just not it, man.

00;32;04;00 - 00;32;12;29
Speaker 4
It sounds like a vacuum cleaner, honestly. Yeah. And I get the argument from people like, Oh, they're fast and everything. It's like, well, there's a lot more aerodynamic grip and like they look like fucking spaceships compared.

00;32;12;29 - 00;32;20;26
Speaker 3
To like even a few years ago, like seven years ago. They look like something I could make with, like, Lego bricks. They really did. And you look at.

00;32;20;26 - 00;32;23;27
Speaker 4
Them now, they're so swoopy and aerodynamic, look.

00;32;23;27 - 00;32;26;29
Speaker 1
In the side pods and they're purpose, like.

00;32;27;05 - 00;32;29;00
Speaker 3
Like walruses all over the place. You guys.

00;32;29;00 - 00;32;30;02
Speaker 4
See Lewis Hamilton.

00;32;30;04 - 00;32;31;00
Speaker 3
You hear about this back?

00;32;32;09 - 00;32;35;11
Speaker 2
Oh, dude, he looked crippled, getting out of the car.

00;32;35;20 - 00;32;38;26
Speaker 4
Did. It was bad, man. That that poor person. They've got to figure that.

00;32;38;26 - 00;32;54;19
Speaker 2
Out they used there's been a lot of I saw there was like Ricardo Gasly who else one other guy they're like they're like messed up from it I think George Russell too, probably obviously because he's in the Merc. So he's just had a huge concussion probably.

00;32;54;20 - 00;32;55;24
Speaker 3
After that car.

00;32;56;22 - 00;32;58;14
Speaker 4
Yeah, I think where somebody from Alpine might have been.

00;32;58;18 - 00;33;00;08
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00;33;00;18 - 00;33;22;15
Speaker 4
I saw that. Yeah. It's crazy, man. Like, they've, they've got to figure something out. He has got to figure something out there. I don't know what you do. I don't know if it's a regulation thing. Like, I don't know what you can do mid-season, but like when you've got drivers getting their spinal cords inspected pre and post race and monitored, like that's not normal, man.

00;33;22;24 - 00;33;29;24
Speaker 4
No other race series does that where you have a daily two time like inspection on your spine.

00;33;29;24 - 00;33;32;24
Speaker 3
Like that's you know, that's not normal.

00;33;33;05 - 00;33;40;24
Speaker 4
So they need to they need to look into that man. Lewis was just the guy. I think he put it over the edge because you could see how bad it was, you know, the car man, like, oh, my goodness.

00;33;40;24 - 00;33;41;04
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00;33;41;15 - 00;33;42;11
Speaker 3
I don't I don't know what's.

00;33;42;11 - 00;33;57;07
Speaker 2
Going on with him lately, too. They even like last year, man. At the end of some of those races he looked messed up dude like and when it was really hot in like Abu Dhabi and stuff, man, and like he I don't know what it is he looks like all like he's going through a man.

00;33;57;23 - 00;33;58;22
Speaker 3
Car illness I.

00;33;58;22 - 00;34;17;15
Speaker 4
Think the part of last year too, he was just like he had a car that wasn't as good as the red Bull, you know, and he was just willing that thing to victories. And it was literally just so exhausting. That's my guess because I agree with you, man. He was getting out of the car sometimes and it was just he looked like he was going to, like, completely collapse it.

00;34;17;25 - 00;34;40;04
Speaker 4
And I just think that's what it was. It was just you're so dialed in. You're getting absolutely everything out of the car because with the Red Bulls, maybe you only need to get 90% out the Mercedes last year like 99 if you want to keep up. Right. I think that's that's probably what happened last year. And then this year, it's just obvious the poor person is getting to I mean, he's having to push through the grid like he hasn't had to in a long time.

00;34;40;09 - 00;34;42;25
Speaker 4
I don't know. I think that race in Baku was good, though.

00;34;42;25 - 00;34;47;14
Speaker 2
Yeah, I did. Yeah. I thought it was a like it was one of my favorites so far. I mean.

00;34;47;18 - 00;34;48;00
Speaker 4
Oh, yeah.

00;34;48;03 - 00;34;50;17
Speaker 2
Not just because of our elbow until. But can.

00;34;50;17 - 00;34;50;29
Speaker 1
We talk.

00;34;50;29 - 00;34;52;15
Speaker 3
About that? I was turn.

00;34;52;18 - 00;34;53;11
Speaker 2
I love it.

00;34;53;11 - 00;34;54;06
Speaker 1
Finishing sixth.

00;34;54;11 - 00;35;02;20
Speaker 2
I loved it I'm a huge fucking huge Seb fanboy man and I first I was upset because I did have money for.

00;35;02;20 - 00;35;06;01
Speaker 3
Him to go a little bit better than he did. But when he went to.

00;35;07;12 - 00;35;19;13
Speaker 2
That was like unreal recovery and like the fact that he still got P6 is like, insane, man. He is like the fact that he is willing that absolute shit box. Like, P6 is insane.

00;35;19;29 - 00;35;24;18
Speaker 4
Dude, that thing's such a tractor. It's so bad. It's so hard being an Aston Martin fan, dude.

00;35;25;06 - 00;35;41;19
Speaker 2
Maybe that's got to be one of the biggest disappointments, I think in F1 in recent years. Man is like Aston Martin coming and like literally making racing point. Like worse. They came with more money and better sponsorships and they made it worse. Like, I.

00;35;41;19 - 00;35;43;03
Speaker 3
Don't understand.

00;35;43;03 - 00;35;45;05
Speaker 2
But you know what I mean? Like it's just like, yeah.

00;35;45;20 - 00;35;47;01
Speaker 3
And that's pre regulations.

00;35;47;02 - 00;36;16;02
Speaker 1
So yeah, they had all those extra, you know, ways of support and bits of, of R&D to explore. And I mean Saab is just I understand when you say that you're a sub fanboy because he's, he's been such a staple person in Formula One that I've been following because he's just he's so enjoyable to watch not only as a driver but as a as a comic.

00;36;16;02 - 00;36;27;24
Speaker 1
I guess like every time you see him out of the car, he's always doing something stupid or he's making someone laugh like he's doing inspections on other people's cars, being like, Oh yeah, I wonder how that's focused.

00;36;27;24 - 00;36;30;29
Speaker 3
The fireman said, What was he writing? Is riding the scooter.

00;36;30;29 - 00;36;32;14
Speaker 1
Really the best boy around? Yeah.

00;36;33;02 - 00;36;34;19
Speaker 2
Yeah. The mean. So that were unreal.

00;36;34;19 - 00;36;37;07
Speaker 3
Oh, so yeah. You're right.

00;36;37;07 - 00;36;43;22
Speaker 4
Though, in saying that it's just a disappointment because they had all of last year men because.

00;36;43;25 - 00;36;48;05
Speaker 3
They were brutal last year. Yeah. They basically admitted we're.

00;36;48;05 - 00;36;53;01
Speaker 4
Writing the season off and we're just going to do our R&D for next year, which is similar to what Haas did.

00;36;53;03 - 00;36;54;04
Speaker 2
Yeah. And how like.

00;36;54;11 - 00;36;55;15
Speaker 3
If you just had bad luck.

00;36;55;16 - 00;36;57;17
Speaker 2
Main men and then but.

00;36;58;01 - 00;36;59;06
Speaker 3
There's still kind of something.

00;36;59;18 - 00;37;14;19
Speaker 4
Yeah. And they're still kind of swinging and I think you have to look at Haas as the last team to make significant upgrades because they're waiting it out, which honestly kind of smart when you have a low budget and they've had some really bad luck with crashes and everything. I mean you think fucking thing on the road.

00;37;14;29 - 00;37;16;22
Speaker 3
But if you look at.

00;37;16;22 - 00;37;19;23
Speaker 4
Red Bull versus Red Bull, fuck, I mean it is a green bull.

00;37;20;17 - 00;37;21;29
Speaker 3
If you look at what.

00;37;21;29 - 00;37;25;14
Speaker 4
Aston hasn't been able to do this year, it's crazy.

00;37;25;24 - 00;37;38;29
Speaker 2
Oh, it's hard to watch being a Canadian to stroll in that car sometimes. Do you mean like it's you want to. You want him to do well, man, but it's just he he does it to himself sometimes, and it's just. Oh, yeah, the double crash.

00;37;38;29 - 00;37;40;14
Speaker 4
Double crash and p one right.

00;37;40;24 - 00;37;42;20
Speaker 3
There, like, come on. Do you see that, Aaron.

00;37;42;28 - 00;37;46;05
Speaker 1
No, I didn't. Or I didn't give it to take it away.

00;37;46;28 - 00;38;02;13
Speaker 2
He he like he locked up on it, which turn it is. It's like where they have that run off. He locked up and instead of bailing out to the or to the right, he hit the wall and then like literally a couple of corners later smoked another wall, like just locked up again.

00;38;02;13 - 00;38;04;16
Speaker 3
So he's he's on the radio after.

00;38;04;16 - 00;38;09;17
Speaker 4
Crash one, before Crash two. He's like, yep, I think my spoilers damage. And they're like, okay, stand by.

00;38;09;26 - 00;38;13;25
Speaker 3
And then he proceeds to just tear off the whole front of his car. It's like the head corner.

00;38;14;01 - 00;38;16;10
Speaker 2
Just under stared hard right into the wall.

00;38;16;17 - 00;38;17;29
Speaker 3
Oh my God. It is hard.

00;38;17;29 - 00;38;27;04
Speaker 4
Being like you always have to have a soft spot for him because he is a Canadian. But between him and Latifi it is very hard cheering for a Canadian in Formula One right now.

00;38;27;09 - 00;38;45;11
Speaker 2
I know through and the thing is is I don't think I honestly don't think that's like strong when he's on he's actually a wagon driver. Oh yeah but he just is so inconsistent. I don't know if it is also because he's just driving like the fucking Aston Martin and like even is having some, some issues with it, you know what I mean?

00;38;45;11 - 00;38;51;29
Speaker 2
Like, but I mean, we love this place and I don't even know where Stroll was like fucking 12. 13.

00;38;52;05 - 00;39;19;00
Speaker 1
Yeah. So to see some of these drivers like, like latifi and stroll and Seb and see these drivers in like put them in, put them in the Ferrari, put him in a Red Bull and just see, you know, either a how much quicker they go or B how much different their driving style is when they have a good, reliable car.

00;39;20;00 - 00;39;30;16
Speaker 4
I think you can kind of tell, right, because what happened with George Russell when he finally got that Mercedes spot for a day or whatever. Yeah, I forget what track that was. Was it Abu.

00;39;30;16 - 00;39;32;26
Speaker 3
Dhabi? I don't.

00;39;33;03 - 00;39;33;25
Speaker 2
Want to say it was.

00;39;35;00 - 00;39;36;00
Speaker 1
Abu Dhabi. It was.

00;39;36;01 - 00;39;37;04
Speaker 4
Bahrain. They were brain.

00;39;37;04 - 00;39;41;09
Speaker 2
Drain. The second the second track. I think the second race there.

00;39;41;18 - 00;39;57;01
Speaker 4
Yeah. Because it was. Yeah, that's right. I so I think that's what and that's what people were saying the whole time about him. They're like, oh, he's sick, he's sick. Like put him in a good car and see what he can actually do. The argument too is like, Oh, see if he'd be better than Lewis. You could tell he was going to be sick.

00;39;57;01 - 00;40;14;01
Speaker 4
It wasn't like a for sure, but you could tell he was going to be something. And then when he got on that car to see him like battle to the lead two separate times in the same race, it's like, yeah, this kid's nasty. So you can tell. And I think with Latifi and I think with Stroll, I just don't think those guys could do anything.

00;40;14;07 - 00;40;21;04
Speaker 4
I think the interesting argument would be what would be like in that Ferrari right now or.

00;40;22;17 - 00;40;22;22
Speaker 3
Who.

00;40;22;27 - 00;40;24;03
Speaker 1
Would be up there with Perez?

00;40;25;16 - 00;40;26;02
Speaker 4
I think so.

00;40;26;12 - 00;40;45;07
Speaker 2
Sad seven Ferrari man. It just hurts my heart every time I hear that bad. Like, yeah, it's like the big it's like, what if, man? But it's like at the same time it's still Ferrari being Ferrari. Like look at McLaren GLA Clair's driving the absolute piss out of that car and he's there. Failed him like three races, three or four races in a row.

00;40;45;10 - 00;40;54;26
Speaker 4
And this same old Ferrari is the same thing that happened to subdued. They just couldn't keep that thing running. Basically or like even strategy to like.

00;40;54;26 - 00;40;56;14
Speaker 3
It's just all these little things with Ferrari.

00;40;56;15 - 00;40;58;16
Speaker 2
Like Monaco, just absolute disaster.

00;40;58;16 - 00;41;07;01
Speaker 3
Oh, how do you boxpark make that miss stay out there failed like you guys are so dumb. So between that and reliability issues.

00;41;07;01 - 00;41;09;26
Speaker 4
Yeah, this is just sad to point out with Leclerc because he yeah.

00;41;10;07 - 00;41;11;29
Speaker 3
So I think it was like sessions man.

00;41;12;05 - 00;41;26;13
Speaker 2
It was what it was both Ferrari's a Haas and an alpha man like for Ferrari power units and they confirmed like like Claire's engine is like done beyond repair. So like for sure has a tire trained like penalty like later.

00;41;26;13 - 00;41;28;29
Speaker 4
On in the season six grid place penalty.

00;41;29;05 - 00;41;30;29
Speaker 3
I think it's five, I think five.

00;41;30;29 - 00;41;31;28
Speaker 4
Or six it's right around there.

00;41;31;28 - 00;41;32;04
Speaker 3
It's.

00;41;32;25 - 00;41;49;08
Speaker 2
It's a being a title fight. Yeah. Like if you I mean and then yeah as soon as they have both red walls ahead, like they're going to play strategy and they're going to just make it harder. Like they really not set themselves up to win a championship. Which man? The beginning of the season, dude, I would have thought it was in the bag.

00;41;49;08 - 00;41;51;29
Speaker 2
Like first year races.

00;41;51;29 - 00;41;55;05
Speaker 4
Yeah, 100% men. I think they're out of the constructors now too.

00;41;55;29 - 00;42;00;29
Speaker 2
They're Yeah. Like they're going to be competing with Mercedes now for a second like big time.

00;42;00;29 - 00;42;28;21
Speaker 1
And you know what I find hilarious is Mercedes is one of those brands that can make and this is for both Formula One and for motorsport and for in general, they can make absolutely unreal cars, i.e. the five or seven or the Black Series, and then they can make absolute muffins of cars like the B 250 hatchback or the go.

00;42;28;27 - 00;42;31;05
Speaker 1
Or is it okay that? Weird boxy one.

00;42;31;23 - 00;42;33;26
Speaker 4
Oh yeah. Came as a weird looking SUV.

00;42;34;20 - 00;42;43;24
Speaker 1
And then it's funny because this is going to kind of tie in to our next segment. Mercedes also makes the smart car.

00;42;43;24 - 00;42;47;03
Speaker 3
Do they? Yes. These are I don't.

00;42;47;03 - 00;42;53;18
Speaker 1
Know, it is the same company. That's why if you go to a mercedes dealership, you can buy a smart car.

00;42;53;18 - 00;42;55;16
Speaker 3
I did not know that. No, I.

00;42;55;16 - 00;42;58;10
Speaker 2
Thought it was BMW. That's crazy. And others BMW, too.

00;42;58;10 - 00;43;00;08
Speaker 4
But I think I'm thinking of Mini. Yeah.

00;43;00;08 - 00;43;01;03
Speaker 2
Yeah. This is the.

00;43;01;05 - 00;43;09;20
Speaker 1
BMW and Mini. Yes, but Mercedes is it's under the same Daimler-Benz. They make the smart car.

00;43;10;09 - 00;43;11;18
Speaker 2
They want a Absolut lemon.

00;43;11;24 - 00;43;13;29
Speaker 1
So how do you think? For no reason.

00;43;14;17 - 00;43;15;07
Speaker 3
So listen.

00;43;15;15 - 00;43;36;26
Speaker 4
Honestly, it's so bad of a car and I am a mercedes hack. Like, I will be shamelessly biased about anything. Mercedes always get the benefit of the doubt. Hearing that and being reminded of that doesn't change the fact that the car for this week's segment of Fuck that car is the smart car because it's terrible. It's not even that good on gas.

00;43;37;02 - 00;43;38;13
Speaker 4
It's wildly unsafe.

00;43;38;19 - 00;43;54;08
Speaker 3
It's hideous. So disgustingly styled. And I just. I don't know why you'd ever want to drive one like you're. It's just terrible. I have a loss of words thinking about this thing. Okay. What are you going to put in?

00;43;54;08 - 00;43;59;08
Speaker 4
You put any groceries in it? No. Is it good on gas? No. Is it really cool? No. Is it safe? No.

00;43;59;14 - 00;44;03;22
Speaker 3
Does it come with any interesting feature? No. Is that cloth seats? Oh, yeah.

00;44;03;23 - 00;44;28;14
Speaker 1
Okay, calm down. I get it. I can. I can tell you're very strongly opinionated on this car. Now, let me say this. Do you remember back in the early 2000s when Smart made three different vehicles? Those are the Smart for two, which is the one that we know. We all know. Terrible, terrible. There was the Smart for Four, which was basically an elongated version of it, which was like a five seater hatchback.

00;44;28;23 - 00;44;29;11
Speaker 3
And looked like it.

00;44;29;11 - 00;44;30;07
Speaker 4
Had a birth defect.

00;44;30;10 - 00;44;41;20
Speaker 1
It did look like a had a birth defect. And then there was the Smart Roadster. That one was actually pretty cool. Now I understand that the regular version with the automatic gearbox was like, you had a pencil sharpener for a gearbox.

00;44;41;26 - 00;44;44;03
Speaker 3
Dude, if this is the car I'm thinking of, it.

00;44;44;03 - 00;44;48;07
Speaker 4
Actually looks like one of those pencil sharpener things that you put on your desk as a paperweight.

00;44;48;12 - 00;45;21;14
Speaker 1
Yes. So they ended up making because Mercedes and Brabus are quite tightly knit. They did a brabus version of the Smart Roadster, which was very cool. It had a turbocharged three cylinder that was pumped up, horsepower wise, and it had a manual gearbox. Now, with the way that Mercedes is in, Mercedes is Mercedes engines are now with the super high output, small four cylinder engines like the what, 400 horsepower, 500 horsepower, four cylinders that they're putting in.

00;45;21;14 - 00;45;26;17
Speaker 1
Now, imagine if they did a smart roadster again with one of those engines.

00;45;27;04 - 00;45;30;04
Speaker 4
I don't know, man. That thing is so ugly.

00;45;30;04 - 00;45;31;23
Speaker 3
It looks like it looks.

00;45;31;23 - 00;45;33;10
Speaker 4
Like a Saturn dude, like.

00;45;33;10 - 00;45;34;06
Speaker 3
It's so old.

00;45;35;03 - 00;45;36;23
Speaker 2
It does look like a side.

00;45;36;23 - 00;45;38;04
Speaker 1
Of this thing. Now that you.

00;45;38;09 - 00;45;39;21
Speaker 3
It looks like every single.

00;45;39;21 - 00;45;40;16
Speaker 1
Thing that.

00;45;40;26 - 00;45;41;17
Speaker 3
It looks like.

00;45;41;22 - 00;45;48;29
Speaker 2
A Saturn and like a Honda, C or Z had like a horrible birth defect of baby.

00;45;49;05 - 00;45;56;21
Speaker 4
And got they got to the very end of production. They're like, shit, we don't have tail lights. So they stole them off of our eight.

00;45;56;21 - 00;46;03;28
Speaker 3
That's literally what it looks like is they had everything together and then they stole like a couple of design cues from the air. You know what it kind of.

00;46;03;28 - 00;46;04;13
Speaker 2
Looks like our.

00;46;04;14 - 00;46;05;10
Speaker 3
Inelastic.

00;46;05;21 - 00;46;11;28
Speaker 1
We have all this plastic that we picked up from the Honda CRV factories. What are we going to do? Let's make a car.

00;46;12;10 - 00;46;18;24
Speaker 4
But the smart because I don't think we've properly got our anger out on this car slash brand.

00;46;18;29 - 00;46;21;00
Speaker 1
I think you've got people in T van grow and.

00;46;21;08 - 00;46;21;22
Speaker 3
I don't.

00;46;21;22 - 00;46;24;22
Speaker 2
Know I didn't hear one invalid point though.

00;46;25;04 - 00;46;25;22
Speaker 3
To be fair.

00;46;26;11 - 00;46;26;22
Speaker 1
No.

00;46;27;00 - 00;46;28;01
Speaker 2
I like it's an.

00;46;28;06 - 00;46;32;24
Speaker 3
Absolute death trap. It's you know, I love to do.

00;46;32;24 - 00;46;48;15
Speaker 2
Anything useful anywhere except for like if you're in like, I don't know, like downtown Toronto, you know what I mean? Like where you're just like, you can get into places that are hard, too, but, like, that's it, dude. Like, that's all I have. But at that point, it's just like, get a bike, man, get a scooter. You know what I mean?

00;46;48;15 - 00;46;48;21
Speaker 2
Like.

00;46;49;08 - 00;46;50;18
Speaker 4
Who is buying that car?

00;46;50;24 - 00;46;52;11
Speaker 1
Yes, that is the car. I'm going to.

00;46;52;11 - 00;46;56;05
Speaker 3
Spend 20,000. Who's going who is going to the dealership? You know what I mean?

00;46;56;13 - 00;47;06;14
Speaker 4
And they're doing their research and everything. And you got like two cars at the end and you make that decision, you go, Yep, this is the car for me. And you walk into a mercedes dealership. And they're like, Guess.

00;47;06;14 - 00;47;17;09
Speaker 3
So, what car can we get you? So yeah, I'm going to take the smart for two in yellow. Who's doing that in the yellow? I refuse to believe I'm going to somebody out there.

00;47;18;08 - 00;47;19;26
Speaker 1
On a yellow smart car.

00;47;20;17 - 00;47;22;17
Speaker 3
Like they also myself do.

00;47;22;17 - 00;47;30;21
Speaker 4
They almost have to just sell them to the salesman and then they sell them again. So it can be a second hand because I've never seen that happen. I like somebody going and testing.

00;47;30;21 - 00;47;31;02
Speaker 3
A new one.

00;47;31;16 - 00;47;37;19
Speaker 2
I like to think like someone bought thinking it'd be good on gas and it being shit and then being like, Here, let.

00;47;37;19 - 00;47;40;11
Speaker 3
Me get the stats here, let me get the stats on asses.

00;47;41;06 - 00;47;57;24
Speaker 1
I would genuinely do that. If Mercedes is like, Hey, we will give you a job here, but you have to drive a smart car for three months. Do you still want the job? I would 100% take the job. If I get a free smart car out of it and I can be like, Oh yeah, look at this car haha it's free then boom.

00;47;57;24 - 00;48;01;04
Speaker 1
There you go. There's another meme that's pending.

00;48;01;04 - 00;48;01;28
Speaker 4
You live, man.

00;48;02;09 - 00;48;03;01
Speaker 1
That's so.

00;48;03;16 - 00;48;06;20
Speaker 3
Dude owned by a man.

00;48;07;01 - 00;48;08;24
Speaker 4
And you're not making it out of their own.

00;48;08;24 - 00;48;09;08
Speaker 1
No.

00;48;09;13 - 00;48;10;07
Speaker 3
So you don't.

00;48;10;08 - 00;48;13;10
Speaker 2
Buy a scooter, man, and you'll have like a prototype.

00;48;13;10 - 00;48;15;06
Speaker 3
But I think, like, if he keeps.

00;48;16;03 - 00;48;25;26
Speaker 2
It, all I can think about is, like, literally, like, I can't imagine, like, getting hit, like, by trucks, you know, like transport trucks. Every time I see someone, like, literally when I see them on the highway.

00;48;26;15 - 00;48;27;05
Speaker 3
Like, dude.

00;48;27;17 - 00;48;30;24
Speaker 2
I literally am like these people that actually have a death wish.

00;48;30;26 - 00;48;31;21
Speaker 3
Hang on, hang on, hang on.

00;48;31;26 - 00;48;37;02
Speaker 4
Take a guess at what the liters per 100 is. So I'm not even going to screw around with miles per gallon just because.

00;48;37;12 - 00;48;37;29
Speaker 1
It's too much.

00;48;37;29 - 00;48;39;29
Speaker 3
It's just I can't even guess the.

00;48;40;00 - 00;48;43;15
Speaker 1
Liters per hundred. I'm going to say it's around.

00;48;44;06 - 00;48;44;27
Speaker 2
Like highway.

00;48;44;27 - 00;48;47;00
Speaker 3
You retarget average average.

00;48;47;00 - 00;48;47;23
Speaker 2
Average. I mean.

00;48;47;26 - 00;48;49;25
Speaker 1
I'm going to say seven.

00;48;51;02 - 00;48;59;11
Speaker 2
Below, I'm going to go a little higher, I'm going to say average. I say like 16, 17.

00;49;00;05 - 00;49;03;17
Speaker 4
Okay. So for reference, Andrew gave a very bad number.

00;49;04;06 - 00;49;12;19
Speaker 3
Oh, no, oh, no. And that's high. And Aaron, sorry. Oh yeah. And then Aaron.

00;49;12;19 - 00;49;14;20
Speaker 4
Gave a quite good number.

00;49;15;10 - 00;49;16;15
Speaker 3
So for.

00;49;16;15 - 00;49;28;21
Speaker 4
Reference, the Cadillac, the specs that I have is just a regular naturally aspirated 3.6. Okay. And that's 11 liters per 100 and it's a mid-size SUV.

00;49;28;25 - 00;49;32;26
Speaker 3
Yeah, this thing gets 8.6 liters per one.

00;49;32;26 - 00;49;33;08
Speaker 4
Hundred.

00;49;33;15 - 00;49;43;13
Speaker 3
807. Dude, that's high. That's dude, my, my, that's not good. That's my, that's my BMW. My Sierra was.

00;49;43;23 - 00;49;49;29
Speaker 2
30 threes and a 5.3 liter V8 gets 10.4 on the highway.

00;49;50;23 - 00;50;17;19
Speaker 3
Oh. Oh, my God, dude, why would you want this car? It's not even good on gas. Like, it's what you're going to save $4 and get t T-boned by a vesper and you're dead. Like, what are you talking about? Because it really is, right? Like, I mean, what's what's the class difference? 8.6 to 10 like now? Now those 252 bucks.

00;50;17;19 - 00;50;22;22
Speaker 3
It is. It is. So actually. Is it premium. No, no.

00;50;22;22 - 00;50;29;15
Speaker 2
Come on, don't do that. They're turbo charge two. I thought it was just like a 1.6 or like is it no.

00;50;29;15 - 00;50;30;09
Speaker 3
Way to be.

00;50;30;15 - 00;50;31;26
Speaker 1
Turbo charged or.

00;50;31;26 - 00;50;40;27
Speaker 3
Jason oh, my God. 91 is recommended. Oh, there you go. Holy. Okay, so officially. So let's go over the.

00;50;40;27 - 00;50;49;19
Speaker 4
List again really quick here. So the smart car is not great on gas. Terribly unsafe, terribly uncomfortable, zero space for anything. And it takes premium gas.

00;50;50;06 - 00;50;52;23
Speaker 3
And like, why? Why would you want this thing go on?

00;50;52;24 - 00;50;57;28
Speaker 2
I want to figure out on it for how big the tank is here, because I want to do how much it'd be to fill right now.

00;50;58;05 - 00;51;03;10
Speaker 3
On a smart car. So if it's not that good on gas and it takes premium and it has a small.

00;51;03;10 - 00;51;03;23
Speaker 4
Tank.

00;51;04;10 - 00;51;07;10
Speaker 1
Or they used to be diesel, they're not diesel anymore.

00;51;07;10 - 00;51;12;08
Speaker 4
I think they offered a diesel. I don't think they were straight diesel at any point. I think they did a combo, didn't they?

00;51;12;20 - 00;51;14;27
Speaker 1
Do you remember you go with the diesel engine.

00;51;15;15 - 00;51;20;05
Speaker 2
So premium premiums, what, like 230 something right now.

00;51;20;11 - 00;51;22;02
Speaker 3
Yeah, dude. I said, yeah.

00;51;23;07 - 00;51;33;20
Speaker 2
Well it's literally let's say 232 be generous, probably more. Now that's $92 to fill a smart car. Right? Right now.

00;51;33;27 - 00;51;36;26
Speaker 1
The $92 to fill a smart car.

00;51;36;26 - 00;51;40;26
Speaker 2
Granted, that's Canadian. That's like 70 U.S.. Still, like. That's insane.

00;51;40;29 - 00;51;42;15
Speaker 1
Like 70. You mean $0.70?

00;51;43;06 - 00;51;43;12
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;51;43;12 - 00;51;44;01
Speaker 2
Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

00;51;44;09 - 00;51;53;07
Speaker 3
Yeah, that's. That's insane. That that's crazy. That's like the Mercedes to the Mercedes is like.

00;51;53;20 - 00;51;56;26
Speaker 4
110 105 and I put 94 and.

00;51;57;21 - 00;51;58;25
Speaker 2
Yeah, dude. Oh.

00;51;59;04 - 00;51;59;12
Speaker 3
But it's.

00;51;59;12 - 00;52;01;11
Speaker 1
So hard to fill it from empty.

00;52;01;20 - 00;52;02;08
Speaker 3
To fill it.

00;52;02;15 - 00;52;03;12
Speaker 2
To fill it from empty.

00;52;03;24 - 00;52;07;21
Speaker 3
Yeah, oh yeah. It's not bad. It's a bit of a smaller tank in my car.

00;52;07;21 - 00;52;09;29
Speaker 1
But yeah, I'm getting rinsed with the Beemer, the.

00;52;10;00 - 00;52;32;04
Speaker 3
Sort of sandman. So why. Why are you buying a smart for two when you can have my car, which has 500 horse in a trunk and won't kill you? It has a curtain airbags and basically the same the same PG because if I drive like a granny, I get 11 to 12. So it's like.

00;52;32;21 - 00;52;33;21
Speaker 1
That's very comparable.

00;52;34;06 - 00;52;34;27
Speaker 4
But how else.

00;52;34;27 - 00;52;36;27
Speaker 2
Would you save $4 every time you fill.

00;52;36;27 - 00;52;41;28
Speaker 3
Up? But it's like, come on, it's so it's it's not it's that close. And I bet you they're not.

00;52;41;28 - 00;52;48;00
Speaker 4
Even taking into account when you're on the highway. Fun fact spoiler alert nobody does the speed limit. So this thing's.

00;52;48;00 - 00;52;57;25
Speaker 3
Probably, you know, 3800 RPMs on the highway because it has five years. I guarantee you. I guarantee you because the highway I believe the.

00;52;57;25 - 00;53;03;29
Speaker 4
Threshold is like 90 kilometers an hour. Right. They don't have to get up to like 110, 120. That's not what they test.

00;53;04;04 - 00;53;05;09
Speaker 1
No, that's not what they test out.

00;53;05;28 - 00;53;11;09
Speaker 3
So your economy is probably even worse because it has a terrible transmission in it and gear ratios.

00;53;12;00 - 00;53;31;21
Speaker 1
So imagine imagine being that guy that's like, oh, yes, I'm going to go buy a small economic hatchback. And you don't you do absolutely no research. You go buy a smart car because it's the smallest possible vehicle. You think, oh, okay, I'm going to fill this up. And then you see on a little sticker that it takes 91.

00;53;31;28 - 00;53;53;09
Speaker 1
So you spend $90 to fill it up and you think, wow, I just spent $90 to to fill up my lunch box. And then they say, Oh, I'm going to drive to, you know, the next city over, which is, you know, 100 kilometers away or 60 miles away. And you think, oh, yes, this is wonderful. Meanwhile, you're on the highway, the car is shaking.

00;53;53;19 - 00;53;55;22
Speaker 1
You think it has Parkinson's and you're like, this great.

00;53;56;14 - 00;54;02;04
Speaker 3
A transport goes by and you get all squirrely on the highway. I've had the wind physically blows.

00;54;02;04 - 00;54;02;16
Speaker 2
The car.

00;54;02;16 - 00;54;04;02
Speaker 3
Over. Dude, it would.

00;54;04;29 - 00;54;11;06
Speaker 1
I can't even imagine taking that on the 402 that would be so terrifying, especially like in the windy season where it's just those.

00;54;11;06 - 00;54;11;29
Speaker 3
Crossover.

00;54;12;17 - 00;54;13;24
Speaker 2
Merge on the highway.

00;54;14;17 - 00;54;25;02
Speaker 3
In the winter. Could you mention the winter? Oh, man. Anyway, dude. Oh, okay. We can't talk about this because, like the containment process of our car owners.

00;54;25;21 - 00;54;29;17
Speaker 1
If if you own or if you own a smart car, we're not sorry. You should sell it.

00;54;29;28 - 00;54;35;01
Speaker 3
Honestly, you get out of it. Honestly. Yeah. What we're like I mean the point much more.

00;54;35;01 - 00;54;43;14
Speaker 4
If you bought a new really and you bought a used I can't fault you as much but if you bought a new I mean every word we just said.

00;54;44;29 - 00;54;46;07
Speaker 3
But anyways anyways onto.

00;54;46;07 - 00;54;46;21
Speaker 4
Bigger things.

00;54;46;21 - 00;55;03;02
Speaker 1
Here on onto bigger and better things I think you know a quick a quick little recap of the show before we end it. First off, we have some burns. Andrew's car broke down the new Fords. The site honestly go check out the new for the site. It's a really nice site.

00;55;03;15 - 00;55;04;09
Speaker 3
Yeah. Give it a rip.

00;55;04;09 - 00;55;07;23
Speaker 1
Give it a rip. Check out the new trailers if you haven't come in.

00;55;07;23 - 00;55;11;05
Speaker 4
Post on her Instagram. Yeah, you can check those out there back to back.

00;55;11;10 - 00;55;12;25
Speaker 2
Insane, insane motorsport.

00;55;12;25 - 00;55;36;07
Speaker 1
Trailer comment the puke emoji on the Hot Wheels trailer simply for the music. Yes. That's the only thing that's spooky about it is the music. But yes, the motorsport trailer. Beautiful pineapple on pizza, just like olives. If you complain about them, you're stupid. And fuck that car.

00;55;36;07 - 00;55;38;14
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. Well, you know what?

00;55;38;25 - 00;55;45;08
Speaker 4
There is a big thing, right, coming up this weekend. I'm not sure you're aware of the Canadian Grand Prix and I will be.

00;55;45;08 - 00;55;47;24
Speaker 3
Going to that. Is that is this is this.

00;55;47;24 - 00;55;48;23
Speaker 2
Weekend or even.

00;55;49;05 - 00;56;02;08
Speaker 4
So I am flying out to Montreal early, early Thursday morning and I will be sure to be on full alert for car spotting because I have heard there are many, many nice cars in the streets of Montreal in the summer.

00;56;02;15 - 00;56;04;08
Speaker 2
So yeah, it's great there, man.

00;56;04;08 - 00;56;07;01
Speaker 4
It's I saw Senna yesterday in Montreal.

00;56;07;02 - 00;56;08;16
Speaker 3
No way, dude.

00;56;08;22 - 00;56;10;17
Speaker 4
Parked on the side of the road outside of Domino's.

00;56;10;24 - 00;56;12;20
Speaker 3
So I.

00;56;12;29 - 00;56;17;06
Speaker 4
I very much am going to be on high alert for the car spotting. The race is going to be great.

00;56;17;29 - 00;56;18;08
Speaker 3
We're going to.

00;56;18;08 - 00;56;21;19
Speaker 4
Be very, very active online here. So if there's anything you want to.

00;56;21;19 - 00;56;23;26
Speaker 3
See.

00;56;23;26 - 00;56;24;25
Speaker 4
I will be posting it.

00;56;24;25 - 00;56;27;19
Speaker 3
Really, it's going to be an awesome time.

00;56;27;19 - 00;56;43;28
Speaker 4
I think we get to do a track walk on Thursday if it doesn't rain. I was looking into that. Yeah, I think we're going be able to do that. It just depends on whether. So I'm hoping we get to do that because that would be really cool. That circuit's one of my favorites. I don't know how you feel about it, Andrew, but that is one of my favorite tracks.

00;56;44;07 - 00;56;53;10
Speaker 2
I just love. Like any street circuit. I think it's sick. Yeah, my voice said is going to go top six again. Mark my words right now.

00;56;53;17 - 00;56;55;24
Speaker 3
The street circuit king, our guy, man.

00;56;56;14 - 00;57;03;12
Speaker 4
He is the king. He is the king of the street circuits. And I think he usually does pretty well there, too. So what to see I don't know.

00;57;03;13 - 00;57;03;23
Speaker 3
It was that.

00;57;03;24 - 00;57;11;01
Speaker 2
Was that the the classic like him swapping P1 P2 signs with Hamilton they're mad.

00;57;11;10 - 00;57;12;07
Speaker 4
Yes, that's right.

00;57;12;07 - 00;57;15;00
Speaker 3
Because of that he kind of like second penalty.

00;57;15;00 - 00;57;16;10
Speaker 2
What are you. Yeah, yeah.

00;57;16;10 - 00;57;18;15
Speaker 4
Still upset about that? Still a touchy subject for me.

00;57;18;29 - 00;57;23;11
Speaker 3
Still got that when I time. But no, it'll be it'll be exciting.

00;57;23;11 - 00;57;26;03
Speaker 4
It's going to be a good time down there. Definitely lots of content.

00;57;26;13 - 00;57;29;17
Speaker 2
And then into the series literally the next weekend.

00;57;30;13 - 00;57;32;25
Speaker 4
Yeah, we should have some good the next show we do.

00;57;33;02 - 00;57;42;04
Speaker 1
Has a next weekend after his the Canadian Grand Prix is this weekend then we have a weekend break and then it's the.

00;57;42;23 - 00;57;45;10
Speaker 3
Yes that's that's what I mean. Oh yeah.

00;57;45;11 - 00;57;49;27
Speaker 4
I went to the next show. We do. We are going to have a lot more information to give you guys.

00;57;51;28 - 00;57;52;07
Speaker 3
What.

00;57;52;07 - 00;58;09;14
Speaker 4
We'll be up to, number one. Number two, if there's anything we can maybe help you guys out with, I think we're going to have some pretty cool things we're going to be doing in partnership with the track that will make it really worth your while to get down there. And you know what? If you can't, that's cool, too.

00;58;09;15 - 00;58;11;23
Speaker 4
If you're in Europe or if.

00;58;12;00 - 00;58;13;22
Speaker 3
Europe or if you're listening.

00;58;13;22 - 00;58;17;01
Speaker 4
In the Southern States or some shit like that, you know, we're.

00;58;17;01 - 00;58;18;17
Speaker 3
Going to hook you up like we're we're.

00;58;18;17 - 00;58;28;07
Speaker 4
Going to show you all these crazy behind the scenes things. We've got a lot of really, really cool stuff planned. We're going to do a show there, maybe get a couple special guests on the podcast.

00;58;28;07 - 00;58;35;11
Speaker 3
You know what I mean? Maybe some some of the people who drive some of the automobiles, we'll see. But it's coming up fast.

00;58;35;27 - 00;58;42;15
Speaker 4
We've got a big weekend ahead of us. We got that one week break to kind of get everything together and yeah, we'll be doing our first live show with.

00;58;42;15 - 00;58;44;27
Speaker 3
The three of us. Yeah, that would be really cool. Yeah, yeah.

00;58;44;27 - 00;58;45;16
Speaker 1
We a lot of fun.

00;58;46;02 - 00;58;46;21
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00;58;46;21 - 00;59;00;23
Speaker 4
We're going to do some interviews to the one. You know, I will spoil one thing. I'll spoil one thing. We're going to be doing okay. We're going to be showing off the people of the circuit and we're going to be interviewing the drunkest craziest people we find around the circuit.

00;59;01;05 - 00;59;05;22
Speaker 3
That's going to be sort of real. Yeah, it's going to be, as I said earlier. So we're going to be.

00;59;05;22 - 00;59;13;11
Speaker 4
Going around just interviewing people, asking them what they think of the track, different questions like what kind of beers? So they're like, Can they chug this beer? Stuff like that. Yeah, really.

00;59;13;11 - 00;59;14;22
Speaker 1
Often here in Country Island.

00;59;15;23 - 00;59;26;29
Speaker 4
Beer. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's going to be very shades side talk. Yeah. Ever seen side talk on Instagram that's going to be kind of like that just with a racetrack spin. So no, we're excited, man. We're really excited.

00;59;27;08 - 00;59;40;20
Speaker 1
All right. Well, I think I think we ended on a good note. Andrew, it was great to have you. I look forward to the three of us being at this more often. And the fact that we're able to finally, finally get you on the show.

00;59;40;20 - 00;59;42;19
Speaker 3
Is, yeah, yeah, I want to hear.

00;59;42;19 - 00;59;44;00
Speaker 1
More of the same thing.

00;59;44;02 - 00;59;45;06
Speaker 3
But yeah, big time.

00;59;45;06 - 00;59;46;26
Speaker 4
I want to hear more about the Civic too.

00;59;47;01 - 00;59;52;13
Speaker 3
Yeah, I want to get your question. The Civic going hopefully is fucking no bad news next time.

00;59;53;12 - 01;00;04;06
Speaker 2
Oh yeah. This is this is awesome. On a day like we finally got to get together and it life's friggin brutal. Like, at least for me, we got it all lined up. I'm sure we'll be able to do, like, a lot more often now, but big time.

01;00;04;06 - 01;00;06;08
Speaker 3
Big time. All right. Awesome, awesome.

01;00;06;08 - 01;00;10;03
Speaker 1
Well, thank you all for listening and will see you in the next episode.

01;00;11;12 - 01;00;24;12
Speaker 5
You just decide.