Forza World Podcast - A Forza Horizon Podcast

Review: Forza Horizon Anniversary Celebration

October 31, 2022 Forza World Episode 9
Forza World Podcast - A Forza Horizon Podcast
Review: Forza Horizon Anniversary Celebration
Show Notes Transcript

A special edition of the podcast this we dive into the new Forza Horizon Celebration update. It's been 10 years since the original Forza Horizon dropped, and Playground Games is celebrating by bringing back songs from old games, special reward cars and challenges, stories, and more. Each week is an alternating theme, from Forza Horizon games 1 through 4, featuring a remaster of their respective intro screen. We'll be doing another special edition show dedicated to the 10 year anniversary of Horizon 1 and how great that game was, but for now, we give our thoughts on the Celebration update. Lots of info to take in!

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00;00;22;29 - 00;00;37;25
Speaker 1
Hello, everybody, and welcome to a special fourth World podcast, The Horizon. The Anniversary Update. The 10th anniversary update has been released. Yes. And we want to talk about it.

00;00;38;00 - 00;00;55;16
Speaker 2
Absolutely. And you know what? What's interesting to note, too, is we are going to have like a tribute episode we're going to be doing now. We're going to be doing that when it gets closer to the actual, you know, 10th anniversary. Yeah, you got her. So, yeah, this is going to be dedicated to this update that they just put out for Ryzen five.

00;00;55;16 - 00;01;09;08
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yep. This is this is dedicated to the update. This is dedicated to, you know, the 10th anniversary because that's coming up on on the 23rd of October is when that's going to happen. 10th anniversary of four. The world is coming up really quick as well.

00;01;09;08 - 00;01;09;28
Speaker 2
Yeah, because.

00;01;09;28 - 00;01;12;13
Speaker 1
That's what, January 20, 23.

00;01;12;24 - 00;01;28;14
Speaker 2
Yes. Technically, everything started late December, but I don't have an exact date. But we just go by the anniversary, the Instagram account, which I think is like January 2nd or something like Yeah. So that's crazy. I really do think about that because that is, I don't know if I should be proud or depressed.

00;01;28;26 - 00;01;50;02
Speaker 1
You know, it's an exciting time. Ten years we've been we've been ten years. Yeah, ten years. So anyway, I want to I want to jump right into this, this anniversary update as a general consensus, my personal opinion, I like it. I really like how playground games have put the time in to make something like this, especially for the anniversary.

00;01;50;15 - 00;01;56;20
Speaker 1
Because let's be honest, they could have hit the bed and just done absolutely nothing. And we wouldn't have been surprised. Yeah.

00;01;56;20 - 00;01;57;18
Speaker 2
What would have been brand?

00;01;57;18 - 00;02;03;08
Speaker 1
Yeah, for sure. They would have been like, Oh, right, we forgot about that. Here's an Instagram post escalator.

00;02;03;18 - 00;02;22;15
Speaker 2
Yeah. And, and, you know what's funny though is we give turn ten a lot of credit because I think they handled motorsport better than playground handles horizon. Oh, way better. However, however, I don't think they did a great job at all with Forza Motorsport four. To my knowledge, they didn't even make a single 10th anniversary post with Forza Motorsport four.

00;02;22;19 - 00;02;32;13
Speaker 2
No, which is insane to me because that was a very, very important game in motorsport history or racing motor. Everybody will be doing motorsport.

00;02;32;15 - 00;02;37;14
Speaker 1
Yeah, with motor like racing game, sim game, whatever you want to call it, you.

00;02;37;14 - 00;02;46;17
Speaker 2
Think about like Auto Vista and all the different things it introduced. It was huge. Yeah. So it's funny that they didn't do anything, but I'm happy that playground did something here.

00;02;46;19 - 00;02;59;27
Speaker 1
Yes. And I think I think one of the reasons why Turn ten didn't necessarily do anything is because it was the fourth iteration of the game. Horizon was the first like this was the first step away from that motorsport.

00;02;59;27 - 00;03;12;08
Speaker 2
And Turn ten seems to focus more on the franchise's anniversary rather than individual games. Exactly. Yeah. That being said, it's still a marquee. It's arguably one of the best Xbox games ever made. Yes. So that was a bit odd.

00;03;12;15 - 00;03;35;17
Speaker 1
But but you know what? It is what it is. I do want to get into this death anniversary. So there were quite a lot of, you know, the basic update changes and all this, you know, bug has been fixed and whatever. But first off, I want to talk about the intro screens now. If you haven't checked out the Instagram week, one is up there, week two might be up there by the time this goes up.

00;03;36;03 - 00;04;04;24
Speaker 1
I'm not too sure. Really? Honestly, depends when we can get this edited out. Yeah, but the intro screens that you see when you boot up the game have been changed in a way to reflect the game that they're celebrating. So week one, they're celebrating Horizon one and they they changed the intro screen in a way to remind you of Horizon one.

00;04;05;17 - 00;04;21;26
Speaker 1
The scenery is still Mexico. All of the locations that are used in these intro screens are still in Mexico, but they've updated the graphics, they've updated the kind of the camera angles and the shots and the panning and all that stuff to reflect the original horizon. One intro screen.

00;04;21;26 - 00;04;26;11
Speaker 2
And the contrast is garbage. So it kind of actually looks like Horizon.

00;04;26;11 - 00;04;49;12
Speaker 1
Horizon one, which is funny. Oh, yeah, exactly. They they did a really good job. So couple notes that I do want to make on these interest screens. One, there were two panels that you saw in Horizon. One that aren't part of this new intro screen. One of them is with the Ferrari four or five eight Spyder in Horizon one that's no longer in the introduction screen.

00;04;49;21 - 00;05;09;24
Speaker 1
I don't understand why they could have like there's plenty of locations in Horizon five that they could have used for that. And if they were updating the cars like I knew and I know in the second shot, the Camaro has been updated to a newer version of the Camaro. There's the 48 spy or the 48 Pista in the game.

00;05;10;10 - 00;05;19;12
Speaker 1
There's the F8 Tributo in the game. They could have used an updated version of the four or five eight to use in the shot, which I think would have fit perfectly right.

00;05;19;12 - 00;05;23;18
Speaker 2
And so your gripe is basically why wasn't the most accurate they could back?

00;05;23;19 - 00;05;40;16
Speaker 1
It wasn't the most accurate. Second shot that they missed was the one with the Nissan GT-R and kind of like the industrial area that's not in the game. Which is weird because the Nissan GT-R is in the game as well as the GT-R nismo and there's again plenty of locations that they.

00;05;40;16 - 00;05;41;17
Speaker 2
Could have used some of.

00;05;41;17 - 00;05;44;01
Speaker 1
They kind of just I don't want to say that they got lazy.

00;05;44;06 - 00;05;45;02
Speaker 2
It feels that way.

00;05;45;02 - 00;06;04;26
Speaker 1
It feels it feels that way because there there are places and there are cars that they could have used and they could have shot that they didn't. My third and my biggest gripe with the Horizon one intro screen is one of the shots includes a car that is not in the game and that is the base model of the Pagani Huayra.

00;06;04;28 - 00;06;07;18
Speaker 1
The first iteration of the Pagani Huayra.

00;06;07;18 - 00;06;09;08
Speaker 2
Was there, not in Horizon one.

00;06;09;19 - 00;06;12;12
Speaker 1
Nor was in Horizon one. It's not in Horizon five.

00;06;13;17 - 00;06;15;13
Speaker 2
Oh, it's the other way, the other way around.

00;06;15;25 - 00;06;17;28
Speaker 1
So the Y would be season horizon five.

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Speaker 2
So how do you think they like shot that.

00;06;20;21 - 00;06;26;11
Speaker 1
No, no, they like they had to update the graphics in some way so they had to re scan that car.

00;06;27;11 - 00;06;44;09
Speaker 2
Hmm. So I wonder if they re scanned it, but don't have the rights to put it in the game. Probably is. Probably. Okay, that's interesting to think about. I wonder how many cars they have that could be scanned and they're just waiting like Alpha comes to mind. Yeah. I wonder if they've got stuff wait in the wings that they have scanned.

00;06;44;09 - 00;06;55;01
Speaker 2
I mean, you can scan whatever you want. You're ethically right. Like you could scan my shoe and put it in the game if you wanted to, but you don't have the rights for Adidas stuff. Exactly. So that's that's interesting. That's interesting. I didn't think about that.

00;06;55;01 - 00;07;10;18
Speaker 1
They updated certain cars. They left out certain things and they just completely forgot to. Maybe they didn't forget. Maybe they maybe there's something that we don't know. And I'll give playground the benefit of the doubt and say maybe they're possibly smarter than we are.

00;07;10;18 - 00;07;11;04
Speaker 2
Maybe there's a.

00;07;11;04 - 00;07;12;04
Speaker 1
Reason. Maybe there is a.

00;07;12;04 - 00;07;13;06
Speaker 2
Reason money than we do.

00;07;13;11 - 00;07;24;15
Speaker 1
They do have more money than we do. And they also a low bar. They also get to scan a lot of really cool cars. Yeah, but you know, I don't know Porsche London cars and coffee was pretty cool. So yeah.

00;07;25;01 - 00;07;26;22
Speaker 2
It would you think of that radio station.

00;07;27;11 - 00;07;32;14
Speaker 1
Okay this is another thing I want to talk about. Okay. Radio station. So the radio station is staying.

00;07;32;25 - 00;07;38;13
Speaker 2
That's that saying in the game. So explain to the ladies and gentlemen what this radio station is all about.

00;07;38;13 - 00;07;45;27
Speaker 1
Okay, so this I what's it called again? I know you have a name. Oh, was it mix tape?

00;07;46;04 - 00;07;46;19
Speaker 2
Yes.

00;07;46;19 - 00;08;13;09
Speaker 1
Okay. Horizon mix tape. So Horizon mix tape is, you guessed it, a mix tape of a bunch of songs from Horizon one through four. Now, obviously, it's a mix tape. They couldn't put every single song from every single radio station on one single radio station to play in Horizon five, because that would completely take away from all of the other radio stations they have in Horizon five.

00;08;13;24 - 00;08;14;25
Speaker 2
It would be too good.

00;08;14;25 - 00;08;38;19
Speaker 1
It would be too good. Also, there were a lot of songs in pretty well. I don't want to say every single game, but pretty much every single game that we don't necessarily like to listen to. There's one specific one from Horizon, one that I know both Jason and I very much don't like. The bom, bom, bom.

00;08;38;23 - 00;08;39;11
Speaker 2
That's in the.

00;08;39;11 - 00;08;42;08
Speaker 1
Thing. That's no, no, no, it's not all not on the horizon. Mix tape.

00;08;42;08 - 00;08;43;26
Speaker 2
I was going to say I haven't heard this yet.

00;08;43;26 - 00;08;50;07
Speaker 1
I know, I know. Okay. No, no. But that's in Horizon one and that's a song that we skip very quickly.

00;08;50;07 - 00;08;56;25
Speaker 2
Instant. I turn the radio off. Well, actually, fun fact you can't turn the radio off on Horizon One because it just pours everything. So you have to just mute your TV.

00;08;57;03 - 00;09;04;20
Speaker 1
Yeah. Or you just change to the different radio station and just wait for that song to finish and then go back to it. If you go back to the radio signal you actually actually want to listen to.

00;09;05;07 - 00;09;06;28
Speaker 2
It was by salmon, the whomp.

00;09;07;22 - 00;09;10;27
Speaker 1
It was so it was so bad. Look that song.

00;09;10;27 - 00;09;13;20
Speaker 2
Up and it just looked like the music.

00;09;13;20 - 00;09;15;27
Speaker 1
Video because the music I don't I don't even.

00;09;15;27 - 00;09;20;16
Speaker 2
Want to really I don't even want to know if the song's that bad. The music video just has to.

00;09;20;27 - 00;09;23;14
Speaker 1
The music video is a trip to go on.

00;09;23;25 - 00;09;24;05
Speaker 2
Okay.

00;09;24;22 - 00;09;45;08
Speaker 1
So anyway, the they did a decent job. What I find interesting is the radio station isn't finished. And what I mean by this is when you log in to the game, if you haven't done anything and you listen to the radio station, there's a couple songs that are missing from the radio station. Okay, how do you get those songs?

00;09;45;08 - 00;10;00;00
Speaker 1
You may ask accolades because that's what Horizon does. When you want to unlock things is you have to complete an accolade. Now, I'm not completely against this because it gives you a reason to do things in the game too. Well.

00;10;00;10 - 00;10;01;24
Speaker 2
Do they call that progression?

00;10;01;27 - 00;10;41;08
Speaker 1
Yeah, I thought. Oh, okay. So Horizon crazy crazy concept is bringing progression back into the game. Unreal. I know they did release so there's four songs that you can unlock. Each one is unlocked by completing the story for Horizon Origins, which we will get into later, because I have some words to say about that, but you complete the story for the Horizon one origins, and you get a song from Horizon one, which is a Skrillex song, which I really like Horizon two, three and four.

00;10;41;20 - 00;10;59;18
Speaker 1
I know there's a Fred Fred V Graphics song in there. I think there's two of them in there that you can unlock, which are very good, very good songs. And then there's another one that I completely forget. I think it was one from Horizon two. Anyway, I like the way they did it. It brings back some progression once you complete that, congratulations.

00;10;59;18 - 00;11;18;02
Speaker 1
Your Horizon mixtape radio is done. Did they do the radio station? Perfect? No, because it's opinionated. And the opinion of what songs I would like in the radio station are going to be different than what you might. You, as the listener might want in this horizon mix tape.

00;11;18;02 - 00;11;19;06
Speaker 2
When Jason as me.

00;11;19;14 - 00;11;39;29
Speaker 1
When Jason is, you would want different songs. So is it going to be perfect for you? Maybe. Maybe you're that one person who is just like, yes, every single song in this mix tape radio is perfect. I love it. This is absolutely unreal. And maybe you're listening and you think this Horizon mixtape radio sucks. There isn't a single song that I like from here.

00;11;40;08 - 00;11;48;13
Speaker 1
Well, you know what? It's a it's a coin toss because there are some songs that I like. There's some songs I don't like, but given what it is, I'm happy that they did it.

00;11;48;23 - 00;12;18;01
Speaker 2
So yeah, like, yeah, I'm that's that's kind of the key takeaway here is we should all be really happy that I almost get the feeling sometimes that they listen to this damn podcast because this is a major complaint we've had that the music thinks stinks is so underwhelming in this latest game. Like, I mean, the fact there wasn't salsa blows my mind out the back of my head that makes yeah I would love it all 1950 salsa channel.

00;12;18;13 - 00;12;37;06
Speaker 2
I would have three Coronas every single time there's a song on. So anyway, it's just to review this because I do have the list open here. Okay, the unlockable so I'll just go through the whole list. But the unlockable songs specifically language My Puerto Robinson so that's your horizon one opening song. Yeah. I mean, that's a classic. It's a great one levels.

00;12;37;06 - 00;12;57;00
Speaker 2
I hate saying it's a classic that there's two press levels in Skrillex mix. I mean that's such a also a classic very good show me assign comes included um another unlockable one is slipstream by a metric. Yeah. For me that's an ass song. Aaron is giving a nod.

00;12;57;00 - 00;13;09;12
Speaker 1
No, I give it a nod because it was good song Horizon two. Like because that was a Horizon two song. Yeah. If if you if the time was right and the car was right and the lighting was right, you could have a lot of. Yeah, that song.

00;13;09;12 - 00;13;26;07
Speaker 2
Yes. But sometimes it felt out of place. Exactly. For sure. So. So that's that's one of those songs at least just compared to what I'm seeing on this list. Yeah. Nocturne by Kino, which is the Forza Horizon two start screen yet for me I fell asleep a lot of times while the main screen was on, so I'm kind of over that song.

00;13;26;07 - 00;13;43;12
Speaker 2
But it's still good. It is a good still. Memes Um. Three That is the Forza horizon. Three start screens called Ingrid is a hybrid by dusky I could not for the life of you. Oh, actually no I can hear that song in my head right now. Yes, I'm a crazy person. Yeah, that's a great song.

00;13;43;12 - 00;13;46;03
Speaker 1
It is a good song. It's very underrated. It's yeah.

00;13;46;18 - 00;14;01;21
Speaker 2
It's not a bombing down Backroad song, but I'll take it other songs that are on the on there or by Camel and Crooked, that is a good song. Um, Bored to Death by Blink 182. I would say that is a stinky song. Aaron likes it, I think. Oh, okay. So give me a nod.

00;14;01;21 - 00;14;03;13
Speaker 1
I like it mainly because.

00;14;04;00 - 00;14;06;21
Speaker 2
Those like two, by the way, included, they're not unlocked.

00;14;06;24 - 00;14;27;10
Speaker 1
Yeah. So the thing with that Blink 182 song that's the quote unquote new blink, blink 182 then a lot of people don't necessarily like. But the fact that it's Blink 182 I like because I've been a Blink 182 fan for a while. So the fact that it's even in a four is a game makes me happy. And that's that's why I'm like, you know, you have to say that's true.

00;14;27;27 - 00;14;31;00
Speaker 2
Okay, get it right by the offspring.

00;14;31;00 - 00;14;31;16
Speaker 1
That's a good one.

00;14;31;16 - 00;14;48;20
Speaker 2
Yup. I'll take that. Try to buy the knocks. I couldn't even begin to tell you what that song sounds like. I'll take it. Whatever. That's from Horizon three. The last one, which you do have to unlock constellations the FH three vape max by Fred being grafix. Holy cow. The amount of times I played this in my song in the past summer.

00;14;48;21 - 00;15;03;07
Speaker 2
Oh yeah. Jesus Christ. That's a great song. I know. So look forward to these, like, these unlockable songs. These are worth it. Like, these are, you know, these are songs. I mean, they're they're putting on anyways when we're playing the game. Oh yeah. So I'm like a Bluetooth speaker through the TV.

00;15;03;08 - 00;15;03;15
Speaker 1
On a.

00;15;03;21 - 00;15;11;29
Speaker 2
Present for a moment apart. So that's the start screen for this reason for or desert whatever. Yeah, yeah. I'll go with that.

00;15;12;19 - 00;15;32;16
Speaker 1
When it comes to that song, the the start screen for Horizon four kind of ruined it for me. But if you put that song on and you're you're cruisin either as a cruise and at a backroad you're cruising down a, you know, Coast Road or whatever, like wherever you are in the world, if you're just cruising and the sun's going down, you throw that song on it is on wheels.

00;15;32;21 - 00;15;43;12
Speaker 2
Yes, I'll give you that. The other two Fly By Marshmallow. That song makes you wanna kill myself. Yeah, and don't break her by metric, which is pretty good.

00;15;43;12 - 00;15;44;05
Speaker 1
It is a pretty good one.

00;15;44;05 - 00;15;54;09
Speaker 2
And in my opinion, this is an unlockable song. Okay. I would say this is the best song that's ever been in a Forest. A Game Sunrise by Fred Beam Graphics.

00;15;54;09 - 00;15;55;13
Speaker 1
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

00;15;55;13 - 00;16;11;29
Speaker 2
It's a ten minute banger. It was never formally released by any record label. You can't download it, you can't find it. You have to literally rip this thing off of YouTube or read it. Yep. Or straight out of the game. It is incredible to us. If you want this, I can send you the file because I was one of the people who ripped it off it.

00;16;12;00 - 00;16;34;07
Speaker 2
Read it and it is. It's so good. It's the single best driving song I've ever heard in my life. There's technically four parts to it. Yeah, it was made specifically for Forza, so these two guys collaborated on the song, made it for Microsoft Studios and Microsoft never released it because Microsoft things, it's a banger, it's the ultimate for is a song.

00;16;34;07 - 00;16;39;09
Speaker 2
It should be in every game. It's that good. Yeah. And that's saying something because levels and language.

00;16;39;17 - 00;16;41;05
Speaker 1
Are like absolute.

00;16;41;05 - 00;16;58;14
Speaker 2
Really good songs. And like, chances are if you're listening to this, you know, those two songs and how good those two songs are. If you can't Picture Sunrise, look it up one more time. Sunrise, Fred V graphics. Holy shit. Unreal. Oh, my God. Yes. Like, yeah. You need to have that song on your phone. It needs to be in the game.

00;16;58;14 - 00;17;05;24
Speaker 2
I'm glad it's in the game. And it only makes sense that a lot of these good ones you kind of unlock. So it seems like the theme is all the start screen songs you got on.

00;17;05;24 - 00;17;09;10
Speaker 1
Like, so glad they put it in. That's good stuff. I am really glad they they put them in.

00;17;09;10 - 00;17;23;00
Speaker 2
So now what did you think I'm going to cut you off here? Yeah, I do want to know what you thought of the midnight bottles making a bit of a return here. Like, I mean, the concept is kind of it's like a one on one like street race, right?

00;17;23;10 - 00;17;31;21
Speaker 1
It's similar. Like, the problem I have with the Midnight Battles is every song, because it's basically a pink slip race. Yeah.

00;17;32;11 - 00;17;35;20
Speaker 2
Every. Oh, is it a pink slip race every time? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

00;17;35;20 - 00;17;59;04
Speaker 1
So all the first time you do it. So if you do it 16 times, you're not going to get 16 of these cars. Okay? But if you do a midnight battle, you get the opponent's car. If you win. So you're like sick, this is great. But every single car is already in the game. And because we're so far into the horizon, five.

00;17;59;12 - 00;18;00;20
Speaker 2
A year into the life cycle where.

00;18;00;20 - 00;18;27;06
Speaker 1
You're into life cycle, odds are you already have these four cars in your garage right? So what I would have liked to have see is these midnight battle cars be new exclusive cars to win in the midnight battles or even just, you know, cars that they brought back. Because that's another thing I want to go over is the cars and the cars that they are bringing back into this update.

00;18;27;18 - 00;18;33;08
Speaker 1
But the midnight battle cars aren't new to Horizon five.

00;18;34;17 - 00;18;53;03
Speaker 2
Which seems stupid, it seems. That seems like such a waste bringing in that kind of a feature in that kind of a game mode and then not having an actual incentive like, like they should have more things. Like when ten in a row you win, ten in a row you get like I don't know what's, what's a themed like Corvette C six grand sport.

00;18;53;08 - 00;19;05;22
Speaker 2
Yeah, something like that. But you know, or like a lot of these cars that they're touting, which we'll get into later, like, I don't know, something unique. I'm with you on that because it is a really good point. We're a year into this game. If you're still playing, right?

00;19;06;07 - 00;19;08;02
Speaker 1
Yes, that would have been it. I would rate one.

00;19;08;02 - 00;19;22;29
Speaker 2
Really good, actually, because it's not a game breaker. No. But it's you know, we had a lot of DMS from people thinking that we're the official account asking for the 65. We probably get one message a day saying please add Mercedes, a 65 favorite car. Yes, every day.

00;19;22;29 - 00;19;24;20
Speaker 1
Well, we're not the actual official page.

00;19;24;20 - 00;19;26;25
Speaker 2
I agree 100% every time we agree with you.

00;19;26;28 - 00;19;38;04
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. So okay. So if you're listening and you see on our Instagram page about all the people that are saying you need to add this car to the game, we can't do anything like we we cannot physically add these cars to the game.

00;19;38;09 - 00;19;42;27
Speaker 2
Do you have any idea how good this game would be if we had any sort of influence on what what's an influence on.

00;19;42;27 - 00;19;45;21
Speaker 1
Oh, my God. It would be one of the best games ever.

00;19;45;27 - 00;19;48;03
Speaker 2
Yeah, it'd be one of the best selling games of all time. Yeah.

00;19;48;28 - 00;19;57;01
Speaker 1
So, yeah, as much as we love the comments, we can't do anything. So don't go attacking us. Go to go to Forza horizon.

00;19;57;01 - 00;20;08;01
Speaker 2
I think we get we just get inundated. We don't necessarily get attacked. Yeah, I would say that's much worse, but it is a good point. It's a great game mode. It just seems like this is a bit of a foible.

00;20;08;01 - 00;20;10;11
Speaker 1
Here it is. They could have done it a lot better.

00;20;11;05 - 00;20;17;02
Speaker 2
So this is this is kind of the playground we're used to where it's like, you know, like the right idea, the wrong execution.

00;20;17;02 - 00;20;22;19
Speaker 1
You tried, but you could you just if you tried a little bit harder, you could have maybe.

00;20;22;19 - 00;20;31;23
Speaker 2
I just feel like that's a game mode that's going to die very quickly. I feel like you put so much effort into that and then nobody's going to play it because there really is an incentive to do it. No, you know, you're going to.

00;20;31;23 - 00;20;34;23
Speaker 1
Do it once you're going to get a car and they're going to be like, all right, what what was the.

00;20;34;23 - 00;20;35;10
Speaker 2
Point of that.

00;20;35;19 - 00;20;36;04
Speaker 1
Now? What?

00;20;36;11 - 00;20;39;03
Speaker 2
Yeah, I know. It's it's a bit of a shame.

00;20;39;07 - 00;21;09;09
Speaker 1
Yeah. I do want to dove into the origin story. Okay, let's do it. Okay. So the very first mission that you do in the origin story, you drive the AMG one from somewhere to the Horizon Festival, right to get three stars. It is kind of tricky. It took me a couple of tries, but it is possible. What you're doing in this Horizon Origin story is you as your character in Horizon five.

00;21;09;17 - 00;21;17;15
Speaker 1
You are driving around Scott, Tyler, Scotty T the man, the myth, the legend who has been through every single horizon game.

00;21;18;01 - 00;21;20;07
Speaker 2
A voice of horizon voice reason.

00;21;20;07 - 00;21;32;20
Speaker 1
He's literally the voice of horizon. If you have not seen the like. And if you live under a rock and you haven't seen any of the promo stuff for Horizon One, then you might not know who's got Tyler is.

00;21;33;09 - 00;21;46;14
Speaker 2
Yeah. While he's to my knowledge, Ed is the only voice actor that's been in every game. Yeah, to my knowledge, he is the sole guy. So there's. There's a chance you've, you've stumbled upon the slippery fish.

00;21;46;14 - 00;22;09;15
Speaker 1
Oh, most likely, yes. Slippery fish. Yes. So anyway, so you're driving Scott Tyler around with this Horizon Origin story. So you start in the games you won, then the next one you do the Viper because that's horizon one than need to the hurricane, which is Horizon two. Then you do the change scenario, so and so on. So there's no linearity to the horizon story or origin story.

00;22;10;05 - 00;22;40;21
Speaker 1
So first off, you get to unlock these songs and then once you complete all of these origin stories, then you get the Viper anniversary edition, which we're going to go over later on. You get these songs, but there's no continuity with the story, so you get a very good sense of that in this story. You are not the person who you played as in Horizon one.

00;22;40;21 - 00;22;58;15
Speaker 1
You as your character in Horizon five weren't even at Horizon Colorado. You weren't even there. You weren't even at Horizon Europe. You weren't in this, you weren't in France, you weren't in Italy. So you.

00;22;58;15 - 00;22;59;13
Speaker 2
Were telling me about.

00;22;59;13 - 00;23;00;04
Speaker 1
This. Yes.

00;23;00;04 - 00;23;12;14
Speaker 2
And we were talking about this the other day, and I didn't catch this detail. But what you're basically getting at is, you know, from Horizon 4 to 5, I mean, that's confirmed. It's you're the same you're the same.

00;23;12;16 - 00;23;12;29
Speaker 1
Character.

00;23;13;00 - 00;23;33;18
Speaker 2
Right? Yeah. And then in the first game, you're very clearly a different character than the second and the third. Yep. And there's never really been any concrete evidence to suggest that you are or you are not the same person in Horizon one, two and three. I personally always just assumed you sort of were like, kind of like I never really thought about it too much.

00;23;33;18 - 00;23;49;15
Speaker 2
It just felt so different. Yeah, but what you're saying is the Horizon story actually details that all three of those people are different. Different. And you are the same person, four and five. Correct. So that is now concrete proof from four.

00;23;49;22 - 00;23;53;24
Speaker 1
So the person that you played as and one, two and three, three completely different people.

00;23;54;05 - 00;23;55;17
Speaker 2
Which is insane that that's.

00;23;55;17 - 00;24;02;26
Speaker 1
Completely different people. Yeah. So in Horizon one, you start as a nobody if you haven't played it, we're just going to kind of.

00;24;03;00 - 00;24;26;03
Speaker 2
You know, I'm going to interrupt quick to. Okay, sure. For a franchise that almost refuses to have any kind of character development, it's insane that they just completely acknowledged, like the character history over the course of ten years, like they made effort for one game to do any kind of character development. And now, ten years later.

00;24;26;15 - 00;24;28;03
Speaker 1
They're going, Sorry, we forgot to do that.

00;24;28;03 - 00;24;42;27
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, sorry. We're going to fill you guys in a little bit. So that's either a sign of things to come or it's just the most odd. Like mention like in passing that they didn't even really consider. I don't know. It's just such a weird detail.

00;24;43;07 - 00;24;59;29
Speaker 1
Yeah, it made me so sad playing these games, like playing this origin story because, you know, you play the Horizon one and he's just like, Oh, yeah, I wish I was there. That was that was really cool. But I was a fetus and you're just like, whoa, okay, you know, a little bit too much, you know, college. Yeah.

00;24;59;29 - 00;25;18;06
Speaker 1
But, you know, Scott, time was like, Oh, yeah, Horizon one was great. You missed out on so much. I remember this person. I remember this person. I remember this person. And he names off pretty much every single character in Horizon One. Hmm. And then Horizon, you know, you do the Horizon two story and, you know, your character's like, Oh, what was your play?

00;25;18;09 - 00;25;35;15
Speaker 1
Oh, that sounded really fun. And he just like, Oh, man, Europe was great. We got to do all these road trips. Like, all these showcases were incredible. We raced trains, you know, we raced planes. Like, it was awesome. Like, like, the whole trip was great. And you're like, Oh, okay, cool. And then you do the horizon three one, you're like, Oh, what was Australia like?

00;25;35;15 - 00;25;56;29
Speaker 1
That sounded really cool. It was like, Oh yeah, Australia was great. Like we were all about the fans, like everything was awesome. We were all about the fans. We're not about the fans. Now you can just basically do whatever you want and you're like, Oh, did you just basically confirm that the games now aren't about the fans?

00;25;57;25 - 00;26;20;05
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. That's odd to over like a voice actor is basically who's relaying that information. Yeah, like that's really odd. Like, if you're listening, I really stop and think about what that is. And if you haven't played the game or like this little horizon story. Yeah, go play that because it's like, that's weird. It why why is a game acknowledging a flaw?

00;26;20;06 - 00;26;25;05
Speaker 2
Like, are they aware of it and they're doing that or are they just really that oblivious?

00;26;25;05 - 00;26;33;00
Speaker 1
I don't know. Weird, though. I would I would hope it's it's the first I would hope they they're aware of this and they're trying to acknowledge it.

00;26;33;11 - 00;26;36;07
Speaker 2
But it's a really weird way to do it.

00;26;36;07 - 00;26;37;21
Speaker 1
You surprised if it's the latter?

00;26;38;19 - 00;26;41;19
Speaker 2
No, me either, because it's it's such an odd way to do it.

00;26;41;27 - 00;26;42;05
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;26;43;04 - 00;27;01;05
Speaker 2
But it almost does seem a bit aware because they're doing this right, like they're doing this whole celebration for this game. There's a lot of really small details and especially with the music and little things like that, they're clearly starting to listen a little bit more. So it's just yeah, it's just weird, man. Yeah. I don't know. There's a really weird thing and.

00;27;01;05 - 00;27;09;03
Speaker 1
You know, okay, cool. You're the same characters you were in Horizon four, but what did you do to deserve the title of someone in Horizon four?

00;27;09;14 - 00;27;24;13
Speaker 2
Well, now we start getting into the nuanced, the sort of issues that we have. Yeah, the horizon games. What the hell did you do from horizon to two now to be considered a champion? Yeah, like, I don't even know what the process was. Vroom, vroom, cars, vroom, vroom cars. Okay, now you're the champion.

00;27;24;19 - 00;27;25;18
Speaker 1
I had some Lamborghini.

00;27;25;19 - 00;27;35;06
Speaker 2
Miller Festival, and you got. Yeah, like it goes back into character development. That's another story for another day. But in just general story.

00;27;35;18 - 00;27;35;28
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;27;36;07 - 00;27;49;09
Speaker 2
But it is true. It's like I don't even remember all those different sort of things, like the progression. I sort of remember the progression from rising to I have no idea how the hell you move up through Horizon three and four.

00;27;49;13 - 00;27;50;15
Speaker 1
Or I guess three.

00;27;50;15 - 00;27;50;29
Speaker 2
Five.

00;27;50;29 - 00;27;53;28
Speaker 1
I can't remember how you do it in Horizon four because it.

00;27;53;28 - 00;27;55;01
Speaker 2
Was it was a useless.

00;27;55;01 - 00;27;56;14
Speaker 1
It was useful as a.

00;27;56;14 - 00;27;56;29
Speaker 2
Useless.

00;27;56;29 - 00;28;21;25
Speaker 1
Game. So but in Horizon three, you'd basically do some races and they'd be like, Wow, these festival sites are getting pretty full. We should probably make another one. You're like, All right, cool. I can choose between this location or this location. Like, All right, I'm going to go in the desert because this is Australia. And then, you know, like, great, now we have another festival and then we do some more races and then like all these festival sites are getting pretty full.

00;28;21;25 - 00;28;30;10
Speaker 1
We should bring another one and then you just do the same thing over and over again. And then you're like, Oh, we're in max capacity. Guess we can't do anything.

00;28;30;16 - 00;28;53;06
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, considering this is an open world game, they seem to get restricted. Awful easy. Oh, yeah. Like, it's a bit bizarre, isn't it? Yeah. Like, it just has undertones of, like, European settlers. Like, we need another village, like. All right, okay. Just keep doing it over and over anyways. Okay. So there's a lot of weird issues that we have with the story.

00;28;53;11 - 00;28;57;05
Speaker 2
It's good and it's bad at the same time. And it's also weird. It is.

00;28;57;05 - 00;28;57;17
Speaker 1
Weird.

00;28;57;26 - 00;29;11;26
Speaker 2
I mean, there's some Easter eggs I've heard also a couple of Easter eggs with like the what do you call it, the little bonus boards. Yeah. So I thought that was cool, having that stupid face on the side of the oh, sports.

00;29;11;26 - 00;29;12;28
Speaker 1
It's hard. It's great.

00;29;13;07 - 00;29;14;04
Speaker 2
So good to be back.

00;29;14;08 - 00;29;30;27
Speaker 1
Yeah, there's, there's bonus boards. So with each week they're adding a different kind of location to the game. So right now, if you go to the Copper Canyon, Copper Canyon, Red Rock haha, nice little nod there.

00;29;32;09 - 00;29;33;28
Speaker 2
True, true. That's good.

00;29;33;29 - 00;30;04;01
Speaker 1
That's why they did it. If you go there, there's a little stage and there's a little bit of a background that you can park your car on and take pictures. And that's one of the things that you need to do for the festival playlist is take a picture of the 2013 Viper. At this festival stage there are, I believe, ten of the new like of the I see new but like the old deck's garage bonus boards that are hidden around that area.

00;30;04;14 - 00;30;20;23
Speaker 1
Yes Marshal ten you get some points to the festival playlist which is really cool. It's cool that they're adding bonus boards. I don't like how if you don't smash all of them, you don't get points because you're like, Hey, you know what? I don't want to smash all of these because these are it's it's a nostalgia thing.

00;30;21;00 - 00;30;21;11
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00;30;22;02 - 00;30;27;01
Speaker 1
But yeah, you smash them, you get some points. Congratulations. That gets you closer to winning one of the new exclusive.

00;30;27;01 - 00;30;31;06
Speaker 2
And once those are broken, they're gone. Gone. There you go. Val was a prop or anything like that.

00;30;31;15 - 00;30;38;28
Speaker 1
You can you can add them into a prop in event lab because they're adding a whole bunch of stuff. An event lab.

00;30;38;28 - 00;30;42;00
Speaker 2
Is that one of them? Yeah. Okay, cool. So this will be around full time.

00;30;42;00 - 00;30;44;07
Speaker 1
Technically, technically. Okay.

00;30;44;07 - 00;30;49;11
Speaker 2
It's just not available like organically in the game. Correct. Gotcha. Okay.

00;30;49;11 - 00;30;56;01
Speaker 1
So all of the event lab stuff that you guys, all the super creative people who want to make stuff in event lab.

00;30;56;16 - 00;30;57;07
Speaker 2
That's not me.

00;30;57;15 - 00;31;15;05
Speaker 1
You can make basically whatever you want. And the horizon one props are going to be there. The Horizon two, three and four props are going to be there. So you can basically make a festival look, whoever the hell you want it to look, you can make it look like Horizon One festival if you really want it to, which is pretty cool.

00;31;15;05 - 00;31;25;22
Speaker 1
I want to get like an end in week two, three and four. They're going to be doing things for the festival sites for Horizon two, three and four. So that's just kind of how they're doing things. Week one and Sunrise.

00;31;25;22 - 00;31;29;11
Speaker 2
One out with a bang. Yeah, if they were smart, they would have done it the other way around.

00;31;29;11 - 00;31;36;24
Speaker 1
They would have done it the other way around. They would have started with four. Get it on three, two, one. Yeah. And then if they finished off with one oh man, that would have been so.

00;31;36;24 - 00;31;51;01
Speaker 2
So can you imagine we go through all this nostalgia and then, you know, you're playing all these great games, you got a prize and one, you know what I mean? Like the pure nostalgia. Yeah. Ryzen to a lot of people's favorite game. Big graphics update that were on, you know, a bit of a departure from the last game.

00;31;51;01 - 00;31;57;26
Speaker 2
Very interesting game. Horizon three, still a lot of people's favorite a lot to do less on the story but still like you.

00;31;57;26 - 00;31;59;26
Speaker 1
Know you're in Australia it's a huge map.

00;32;00;09 - 00;32;16;14
Speaker 2
The way that yeah, like the map and the car lists and everything like it was impressive of game in that sense. Yeah. And then you have Horizon four, which is just the equivalent to stepping in some dog poo and just not realizing it for a couple of days. And you leave your shoes in the sunroom. Yep. And that is the.

00;32;16;16 - 00;32;24;14
Speaker 1
Quality and it stinks. And then you accidentally lay your jacket over your shoes, and then you wear your jacket. You're like, Why does my jacket smell like shit?

00;32;24;14 - 00;32;44;21
Speaker 2
Yes, that's it. Yes. There's a little specific. But yes, I mean, after four weeks of leaving these shoes out in the sun. Yeah, we have to play that throwback. Oh, my God. I'm not looking forward to that. That's just such a womp womp. It is. I mean, after all that it is the same of the womp, god damn it.

00;32;45;15 - 00;32;50;16
Speaker 2
But what do you even throw back to a center? Can you? Sweet. That's a.

00;32;50;18 - 00;32;51;24
Speaker 1
Real throwback to a.

00;32;52;12 - 00;32;53;18
Speaker 2
Miserable physics.

00;32;53;18 - 00;32;54;12
Speaker 1
Four years ago.

00;32;55;00 - 00;33;09;20
Speaker 2
I don't know what else. Yeah, for years that's true. But, like, I don't even know. Rain overcast. We're throwing it back to Horizon four with some severe overcast for the duration of the week. Yeah, it's just drive around in an AMG.

00;33;10;04 - 00;33;11;23
Speaker 1
Perfect. It's not going to work.

00;33;11;24 - 00;33;16;07
Speaker 2
And just experience very weird physics on gravel. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

00;33;16;13 - 00;33;20;22
Speaker 1
They're going to go to drive around in the mug and it's not going to work. And you're like, Oh, huh. Typical person didn't.

00;33;20;22 - 00;33;22;21
Speaker 2
Have sound issues too. Is that horizon three?

00;33;23;00 - 00;33;24;29
Speaker 1
No, they had sound issues.

00;33;24;29 - 00;33;26;19
Speaker 2
Was that when they just it would get stuck.

00;33;26;29 - 00;33;27;19
Speaker 1
And it would just go.

00;33;28;15 - 00;33;33;17
Speaker 2
Yes, yes, yeah. Okay, maybe they can bring that back. Mm. To be fun.

00;33;33;26 - 00;33;34;15
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;33;35;08 - 00;33;44;09
Speaker 2
No, no, no, I'm kidding. I'll swan dove off the bridge before I play Horizon for any anytime soon. Yes. Anyways. Okay so, so I mean we've covered a lot.

00;33;44;10 - 00;33;50;06
Speaker 1
We have I want to get into the cars because the cars, you know, it's the festival playlist thing. That's how you unlock the cars.

00;33;51;05 - 00;33;54;08
Speaker 2
I think that's really the last thing. Yeah. Like does that help little things here and there? But that's.

00;33;54;08 - 00;33;54;27
Speaker 1
But that's that's.

00;33;55;14 - 00;33;57;07
Speaker 2
The big matzo ball here is the cars.

00;33;57;07 - 00;34;20;14
Speaker 1
Is the cars. So it's it's the 10th anniversary of Horizon. Horizon has been around for ten years. And they give us I want to say I got the list here. Yeah, I know what they are. Don't you worry. If they give us five cars, they give us five new cars. One of them is the Viper Gt's anniversary edition.

00;34;20;14 - 00;34;22;26
Speaker 1
So it's not a fours edition. It's an anniversary edition.

00;34;22;26 - 00;34;24;29
Speaker 2
Notably the only anniversary edition car.

00;34;24;29 - 00;34;45;24
Speaker 1
It is the only anniversary edition car. So a little side note on this. I wish they would have had four anniversary edition cars, one being the Viper, one being the hurricane, one being the Centenario, one being the center, because it's the cover cars. Why do you just have one anniversary edition when you are celebrating the anniversary of four games.

00;34;45;24 - 00;34;46;27
Speaker 2
And you've got five cars coming.

00;34;46;27 - 00;34;55;15
Speaker 1
Out and you have five cars coming out? Yeah, like that's it. You only have five cars coming out. This is a 10th year anniversary and you have five cars coming out.

00;34;55;15 - 00;34;56;25
Speaker 2
Yes, it's very odd.

00;34;56;27 - 00;35;11;14
Speaker 1
It is very odd. So the four exclusive cars and I say exclusive because they're just the cars through the festival playlist that you have to do some stupid events and some, you know, jump off a cliff and get some.

00;35;11;17 - 00;35;12;02
Speaker 2
Noise and.

00;35;12;04 - 00;35;12;15
Speaker 1
Whatever.

00;35;12;15 - 00;35;15;26
Speaker 2
Cars are already available. Do they have any special libraries?

00;35;15;28 - 00;35;29;09
Speaker 1
So these aren't special cars. The anniversary edition is just a yellow and black viper has four as edition on the wheels. It has a yellow and gold license plate and it has a Horizon 10th anniversary banner over the front windshield.

00;35;29;09 - 00;35;32;20
Speaker 2
So can you buy these other for cars like. Right? No, no.

00;35;33;03 - 00;35;58;25
Speaker 1
No, no. You can only unlock them through the festival playlist. So you can only unlock them by doing the events in the festival playlist. So the PR stunts, the races, the promo stuff, the rival stuff, that's how you have to unlock these cars. The first one that you unlock this first week is the Ferrari 599xx, which I like.

00;35;59;01 - 00;36;20;12
Speaker 1
I think that's a really good car to bring back, simply because that's the Darius Flint car. That's the car that you race against at the very end of Horizon One. That's the car that you have been chasing throughout the entirety of Horizon One. I like that car. There's a reason for that car being in the game. It brings back memories, it brings back nostalgia.

00;36;20;12 - 00;36;32;29
Speaker 1
It is something you chased, is something you aspire to. I'm okay with it being in the game. Second one that you're going to unlock is going to be the Koenigsegg Agora.

00;36;32;29 - 00;36;37;20
Speaker 2
Yeah, we're struck, right? I don't know. Yeah. So it was in the Need for Speed movie.

00;36;38;11 - 00;36;42;14
Speaker 1
It was in the Need for Speed Movie. It was in Horizon two was.

00;36;43;03 - 00;36;47;11
Speaker 2
I don't think it did anything like it wasn't anything. Showcase car.

00;36;47;11 - 00;36;48;15
Speaker 1
Maybe it was a showcase.

00;36;48;15 - 00;36;57;22
Speaker 2
I don't think so. It might be a really good showcase car. I can't be see it being that. Yeah, I don't know. We have a collective shrug. I don't get that one. It's weird.

00;36;58;02 - 00;37;02;11
Speaker 1
Um, the Aston Martin 177. Mm.

00;37;02;18 - 00;37;04;07
Speaker 2
That's the only one that kind of makes sense that.

00;37;04;08 - 00;37;04;20
Speaker 1
It kind of.

00;37;04;21 - 00;37;22;02
Speaker 2
Forget it. So we were, was a this car. Yes, it was. So it was showcase car in Horizon one. Yeah. It was kind of a big deal when they had it in the game too. Yep. And I mean, we were just talking about it too. I'm 99% sure that it was a car that was used in the cat and mouse mode for pretty sure.

00;37;22;11 - 00;37;30;15
Speaker 2
I'm pretty sure because it would have been an S-Class, I want to say. Yeah. So I mean, I guess.

00;37;30;15 - 00;37;32;21
Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm not disappointed that one.

00;37;32;21 - 00;37;40;22
Speaker 2
I'll take the five, nine, nine. Makes sense too. That was a Darius fun car. It probably should have been the Darius Flint car, the Viper, and then the other cover cars. Yeah, that probably would have made them.

00;37;40;23 - 00;37;41;23
Speaker 1
That would have made the most sense.

00;37;41;23 - 00;37;43;20
Speaker 2
But did we talk about the speedster egos?

00;37;43;21 - 00;37;45;12
Speaker 1
No, no. Yeah, that's the fourth one.

00;37;45;16 - 00;37;50;03
Speaker 2
Yeah. I scratch my head on that one too. I don't get that.

00;37;50;03 - 00;38;15;09
Speaker 1
Now, I do want to make a note. Every single one of these cars, the five, nine, nine X, the Koenigsegg Agora, the Aston 177 and the Eagle Speedster, all four of these cars were in Horizon one, if that's what they're going for. And they're trying to bring nostalgia back from Horizon One. There were so many other cars that they could have brought back.

00;38;15;09 - 00;38;16;00
Speaker 2
About 18.

00;38;16;00 - 00;38;21;19
Speaker 1
Zero with their O's. Yeah, yes. Yeah. It's a it's a big long so many.

00;38;21;19 - 00;38;32;06
Speaker 2
Other cars now. I was a huge speed truck and as you know and as a couple of our friends know, yeah, I was the king of the speed traps. You were. And you were always on one leaderboards.

00;38;32;06 - 00;38;33;12
Speaker 1
Yeah. There are quite a few. The speed.

00;38;33;12 - 00;38;39;29
Speaker 2
Trap. Yeah. So for over half of the speed traps in Horizon one, I was first overall for a very long time. Yeah.

00;38;40;09 - 00;38;43;00
Speaker 1
And until people started glitching the game and they're like, look at my seat.

00;38;43;00 - 00;38;59;27
Speaker 2
And then and then I became the first legitimate time that was on the board. That wasn't enough. About 600 miles an hour on his own. So, I mean, there was a couple of cars that have a good place in my heart. And one of them was the Koenigsegg. You know, I'm going to say.

00;39;01;22 - 00;39;02;15
Speaker 1
Six are.

00;39;02;18 - 00;39;08;22
Speaker 2
Correct. Yeah. That was a speed trap juggernaut in Horizon One. It was.

00;39;08;22 - 00;39;11;26
Speaker 1
And if you know what, if you're bringing back a Koenigsberg, bring back that one.

00;39;11;26 - 00;39;29;21
Speaker 2
Yes, that is the one to bring back. Man, that was a great car. The February F50 G.T. like it's been in a lot of games, but there was a very special speed trap car. It was a very good online car. Mechanics on our was very useful on a lot of speed traps speeds on it.

00;39;29;21 - 00;39;30;23
Speaker 1
It's still in the game which.

00;39;31;11 - 00;39;33;10
Speaker 2
The EB 110. Yeah.

00;39;33;12 - 00;39;34;00
Speaker 1
Still in the game.

00;39;34;00 - 00;39;42;09
Speaker 2
Still in the game obviously. But I mean it's just like, well these other cars were too. So then let's pick some games that have some significance. Yeah, some cars of some significance.

00;39;42;09 - 00;39;49;27
Speaker 1
So there's one specifically that I can think of that has a lot of significance that has not been in the Force a game since Horizon one.

00;39;49;27 - 00;39;50;07
Speaker 2
Okay.

00;39;50;19 - 00;39;51;16
Speaker 1
Do you know what car that is?

00;39;52;11 - 00;39;52;28
Speaker 2
There's a couple.

00;39;53;03 - 00;40;02;04
Speaker 1
It's Italian. Italian. It's green. Green from 26. The Lamborghini Miura concept.

00;40;02;18 - 00;40;03;14
Speaker 2
Oh, lime.

00;40;03;14 - 00;40;04;07
Speaker 1
Green lime.

00;40;04;07 - 00;40;26;01
Speaker 2
Oh yeah. So the Miura concept A that is one of my favorite cars I've ever like, like that was a regular and we made a post about this actually a year ago. Yes. So we were celebrating that during the motorsport for 10th anniversary, which was last year this time last year. And I mean, that was a regular car for me.

00;40;26;14 - 00;40;28;22
Speaker 2
That was, you know, in the rotation.

00;40;28;23 - 00;40;29;09
Speaker 1
That I.

00;40;29;09 - 00;40;29;21
Speaker 2
Loved it.

00;40;30;00 - 00;40;36;20
Speaker 1
I have the highest skill like the car that I have the highest skill score in. Horizon one is in the mirror concept. Really?

00;40;36;21 - 00;40;56;15
Speaker 2
Yeah. Aventador J but who shocked you yourself? Yeah. Now. Yes, it is a wicked car. It looks like. It sounds like the wheelbase is kind of short. So you can whip that thing around. It was comfortable driving, it was comfortable and tracks. You could kind of modify a little bit. So it was really, you know, kind of tight off road and stuff like that.

00;40;56;15 - 00;40;58;21
Speaker 2
It was a nice little rally thing if you need anyways. Yeah.

00;40;59;02 - 00;41;01;08
Speaker 1
You're a concept that would have been a great car to bring back.

00;41;01;08 - 00;41;17;11
Speaker 2
My God. And like, I mean, the ones I mentioned earlier are cars that are kind of like, realistic. I get them. Yeah, it's a concept car you might have to. Oh, Ray tracing. Well about fine. Yeah, but I mean, come on, that's a good idea. I mean, the amount of people I complain about the Mercedes at 65 and those 63 AMG, the SUV.

00;41;17;11 - 00;41;18;06
Speaker 1
That would have been a great.

00;41;18;06 - 00;41;21;16
Speaker 2
Hideous looking car, but still very cool. Yeah. I've got a list for you, though.

00;41;21;26 - 00;41;22;19
Speaker 1
You have a list.

00;41;22;20 - 00;41;27;21
Speaker 2
And I want to see if the listeners at home and yourself know what I'm talking about.

00;41;27;21 - 00;41;31;09
Speaker 1
I'm sure I will because I am a Horizon nerd.

00;41;31;14 - 00;41;33;06
Speaker 2
Ferrari Dino two for six GTI.

00;41;33;09 - 00;41;35;26
Speaker 1
Yes, I would make love to that car.

00;41;36;00 - 00;41;38;12
Speaker 2
Ferrari Fiesta Zetec s.

00;41;38;24 - 00;41;40;12
Speaker 1
The Ferrari Fiesta Zetec.

00;41;40;12 - 00;41;42;25
Speaker 2
S Ford. I'm sorry. Yes, I need another drink.

00;41;43;01 - 00;41;50;12
Speaker 1
Yes, that one was a traffic car though. We couldn't. Oh, no. Look in Horizon One. It wasn't a Honda CRV.

00;41;50;22 - 00;41;51;14
Speaker 2
SLR.

00;41;52;02 - 00;41;55;07
Speaker 1
Yeah, the Sierra was a legend of a car. I like.

00;41;55;07 - 00;41;59;01
Speaker 2
That. Lotus, Elan, Sprint, Mazda Mex five superlight superlight.

00;41;59;01 - 00;41;59;15
Speaker 1
I like Mini.

00;41;59;15 - 00;42;02;08
Speaker 2
John. Mini John Cooper Works Coupe.

00;42;02;08 - 00;42;04;21
Speaker 1
The Superlight was a unicorn car.

00;42;04;22 - 00;42;05;24
Speaker 2
These are all unicorn.

00;42;05;24 - 00;42;08;03
Speaker 1
These are all unicorn cars and Saleen.

00;42;08;09 - 00;42;17;19
Speaker 2
05s Raptor. These are all unicorn cars. Why not bring back a couple of unicorn cars? Man, that is the coolest thing. They could have with all of that.

00;42;17;19 - 00;42;18;08
Speaker 1
That is yeah.

00;42;18;15 - 00;42;35;12
Speaker 2
That right there we always talk about, you know, the Horizon games have kind of got to a spot where, man, I don't know, like, why bringer Yeah, but why bring back like a slower car? Because it's like you've got a lot of really sick, fast cars and you're missing all these six factors. Like I'd probably rather have the Miura concept than a John Cooper works.

00;42;35;21 - 00;42;57;15
Speaker 2
However unicorn cars. Oh my god. That is something I would work towards to have the O.G. Unicorn cars bring that concept back, by the way. But yeah, that would have made a lot more sense. I think people would have been a lot happier versus an Eagle speedster, which makes no fucking sense. The iconic Sagara. I mean, I hate to say it, I rather have a couple other contexts over that.

00;42;57;23 - 00;43;03;06
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. Sorry, I just don't yet. I, it's really like. I really like it's.

00;43;03;06 - 00;43;04;01
Speaker 1
A really nice car.

00;43;04;06 - 00;43;05;12
Speaker 2
That's high in my all time last.

00;43;05;22 - 00;43;06;06
Speaker 1
Czar.

00;43;06;19 - 00;43;14;22
Speaker 2
I know, but it's like at a certain point, like playability in the game with that kind of performance. And I don't even care. I'm just saying I don't care. I think about.

00;43;14;22 - 00;43;21;00
Speaker 1
The same thing with the Agora. Like, like a Gary. You have the 1 to 1, you have the the Agora RS in the game.

00;43;21;00 - 00;43;21;20
Speaker 2
Yeah, you have.

00;43;21;20 - 00;43;26;17
Speaker 1
The, you have the rig era. I rather you have the. Yes. Go like rather than just.

00;43;26;18 - 00;43;27;09
Speaker 2
Well yeah but.

00;43;27;13 - 00;43;35;29
Speaker 1
But that's the thing is like I would rather have all of those cars, but if you said, oh instead of the agora you're bringing back the sixer, I would have bingo just for the.

00;43;35;29 - 00;43;38;09
Speaker 2
Nostalgia. That's what I'm saying. Exactly.

00;43;38;11 - 00;43;39;13
Speaker 1
I don't care about the performance.

00;43;39;14 - 00;43;56;26
Speaker 2
It's such a vague car and you can't really think about the performance aspects and stuff like that. I mean, the 177 is cool, but it's just going to get buried as well. Like it doesn't have enough nostalgia in it, you know? And if it doesn't have enough nostalgia in it, that needs to have some sort of playability from a performance standpoint.

00;43;57;02 - 00;44;05;19
Speaker 2
And it really doesn't. And that's the same thing as the Agera like. I mean, it's still a fast car, don't get me wrong, but there's probably 25 other cars that are just as fast as cluster.

00;44;05;22 - 00;44;12;12
Speaker 1
So here's a good swap out for the 177. What about the V12? Zagato will test?

00;44;12;27 - 00;44;14;01
Speaker 2
Yeah. Beautiful car.

00;44;14;09 - 00;44;16;26
Speaker 1
You beautiful car. You throw a massive wing on the back.

00;44;16;27 - 00;44;19;09
Speaker 2
One of those old world's Porsches, the roughs.

00;44;19;18 - 00;44;20;19
Speaker 1
The. Oh yeah.

00;44;20;25 - 00;44;27;24
Speaker 2
Do that yet. Roof, roof, do those those the old ones or the new. I don't really care. Those would be sweet too. And they were fast.

00;44;27;24 - 00;44;28;02
Speaker 1
They are.

00;44;28;07 - 00;44;30;21
Speaker 2
Green. One was fast. I forget what it was, but it was fast.

00;44;31;13 - 00;44;33;11
Speaker 1
R t r r.

00;44;33;11 - 00;44;35;06
Speaker 2
It was probably like a 2011 ish.

00;44;35;06 - 00;44;39;00
Speaker 1
Porsche or tr eight something like that. It was the 990. Yeah.

00;44;39;26 - 00;45;07;21
Speaker 2
It was like I would describe that as juicy. Yes. I mean, the point here is there's a laundry list. And you know what? I do want to post some cars that that didn't get any love here. Yeah, I want to post some that didn't get any of that. But that's an odd list to review. 1775990 Eagle Speedster. And I mean, the only one that actually makes any sense, an anniversary edition, Dodge Viper, which was a little bit of a letdown, you know, to be honest with you.

00;45;07;23 - 00;45;10;15
Speaker 1
I mean, the body kit, you know, it's a body kit.

00;45;11;03 - 00;45;34;09
Speaker 2
I mean, we know for delivery guy, we know he was probably the one who did the library elements for that car because he does all most of fours and stuff. Right. Shallow has all these random filthy pile stuff. I mean, that was boring, man. Like, I don't know. They could have done like a reverse edition or like, yeah, something, I don't.

00;45;34;09 - 00;45;37;18
Speaker 1
Know, so many things that they could have done, but they didn't. Yeah.

00;45;37;23 - 00;45;54;22
Speaker 2
And you know, it feels like a bit of a slam like it feels like this was the area that was probably the least amount of effort required to really nail it. Yeah. And they didn't, you know, music and getting music rights for old from games ten years ago seems like a pain in the ass, frankly.

00;45;54;22 - 00;45;56;24
Speaker 1
And they did it and they did it. They did.

00;45;56;24 - 00;46;03;02
Speaker 2
It. But then you pick an Eagles speedster and a fucking 177. Really?

00;46;03;15 - 00;46;21;04
Speaker 1
Like if you're going, you're that close if you're going to KOENIGSBERG If you're going to Konigsberg To ask for the rights to put the Agora back in the game, can you just say, Hey, you know what? I know we wanted the Agora instead. Can we have one of your six RS just because you know, that was in Horizon One and that thing was sick?

00;46;21;06 - 00;46;30;03
Speaker 1
Yeah. Do you really think Christian Vulcan is going to say, hmm? You know what? No, I would rather you have the 850 in the game.

00;46;30;03 - 00;46;45;26
Speaker 2
Listen, this is my comparison for the day, okay? And then I'm done talking about this because that's actually make me mad. This is this is the equivalent of going to Mexico. Yeah. Okay. You go to Mexico, you fly down there. Okay, let's hear from Europe. Even better, you're from Europe. Pick a country and you fly to Mexico.

00;46;45;28 - 00;46;46;17
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's been.

00;46;46;17 - 00;46;48;10
Speaker 2
Great hotel, beautiful hotel.

00;46;48;19 - 00;46;49;22
Speaker 1
Five stars.

00;46;49;22 - 00;47;09;28
Speaker 2
You sit down, you know, you arrive at about, you know, six, 630. Perfect tender time. Sun's just starting to go down. The ambiance is great. It's a nice haze in the sky. Mm hmm. Sitting down at a nice patio with one of your buddies or your significant other something they come to take your order. You get a water and a burger.

00;47;09;28 - 00;47;23;14
Speaker 2
Really? You're not going to have a tequila or a Takata or something like that, and you're not going to get tacos. You're not going get a burrito. You're not gonna get an onslaught or you're not going to get Chimichanga. You're getting a burger with cheese. This lineup is a burger with cheese.

00;47;23;15 - 00;47;24;24
Speaker 1
It is a burger with cheese.

00;47;24;25 - 00;47;41;20
Speaker 2
What the hell? You go through all that effort. Yeah. And that's what you're getting. And you're getting a water in a Caesar salad. Yeah. Gimme a break, man. That it honestly started to fire me up as I've thought about this more because I haven't really processed what that list was. Yeah, and it shouldn't be that difficult.

00;47;41;25 - 00;47;42;17
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's true.

00;47;43;00 - 00;48;08;10
Speaker 2
Yeah. So, burger with cheese. God damn it. God damn it. Yeah. So, I don't know. I mean, let's let's really wrap this up here. So I'm saying, all things considered, there's some good there. Some bad tunes are great. Many battles was a great idea, poorly executed. Yeah. I think the little props thing that they've added I like that, I really it's nice the car less is obviously a bit of a joke.

00;48;08;10 - 00;48;09;00
Speaker 2
Um.

00;48;09;19 - 00;48;11;08
Speaker 1
Again, in the Horizon Origin story.

00;48;11;21 - 00;48;13;28
Speaker 2
Yeah, the story is great idea.

00;48;13;29 - 00;48;26;06
Speaker 1
Good and weird. It is good and weird. It's if you haven't played it, please play through it. It doesn't matter if you get three stars on all of it, you're going to get the, the songs and the car anyway.

00;48;26;06 - 00;48;38;21
Speaker 2
Yeah. Just by going through it. Just by going through it, it's worth it. Definitely play it. It's good nostalgia at the very least. I mean, it's something I mean, what's your rating on this out to ten? It's hard to say. Oh, I know. It is hard to say.

00;48;38;23 - 00;48;43;20
Speaker 1
Out of ten I'm I'm in the low sixes, like no sixes.

00;48;43;20 - 00;48;45;09
Speaker 2
I'm like was going to say 6.6.

00;48;45;13 - 00;49;03;24
Speaker 1
I was going to say 6.3, 6.2, 6.3. Like, I'm just I'm disappointed. I'm happy that they did it. I really am. Because they they obviously put in effort. But that's why it's like that's why I'm going to rate it so low is because they they put in effort but they didn't.

00;49;03;24 - 00;49;31;17
Speaker 2
I'm not I'm going to raise you a potential kind of scenario here. Okay. I think what's happening is you're getting people who don't actually know anything the game and are just employed by playground games, trying to do a nostalgia sort of thing. And they've only been with the company for a year, maybe two years. I really you're getting people in here that don't have proper direction and don't understand the little things of, you know, what was significant and what wasn't.

00;49;31;24 - 00;49;49;11
Speaker 2
I think they're looking at this through like if you rose tinted glasses, like sort of I just think you're coming at this with no prior historical significance. Yeah. And you don't have anybody from the original teams. It doesn't feel like. Are you just like, oh yeah. Like the viper was cool. Like, fucking like.

00;49;49;12 - 00;50;04;14
Speaker 1
And you know what? If that's the case, fine. But if that's the case, if you have an entire team of people working on this that have no idea what it was like to play Horizon one, Horizon two, Horizon three, when those first came out. Ask the community.

00;50;05;00 - 00;50;05;26
Speaker 2
Yeah, and you know what?

00;50;05;26 - 00;50;07;04
Speaker 1
Unity is huge.

00;50;07;04 - 00;50;28;23
Speaker 2
And they need they need what my point is, is consultants here, they need to consult with people more. And you can do it privately. You're right. You can do it publicly, too. You can put some stuff out. I get how that kind of spoils a surprise, so to speak. Yeah, but I mean, they need to be reaching out to people for some NDAs or something like that and just ask them what they think.

00;50;28;23 - 00;50;34;05
Speaker 2
And you don't have to take everything right. Like, I'm not going to claim that every idea we've had is brilliant. Most of them are.

00;50;34;20 - 00;50;36;19
Speaker 1
But but I mean, everyone is.

00;50;36;20 - 00;50;59;12
Speaker 2
Come on. Right, right. But but my point my point really is and I'm sure you agree, I just don't think the people who are executing these ideas really understand what what mattered and what didn't. The car shows it. Right? They did a great job with the video. Yeah, but that's easy. You just go back and you look at the old footage, show footage, and it's like, okay, we'll just copy this at Easy.

00;50;59;13 - 00;51;16;06
Speaker 2
That's just you know, you have no idea what the significance of each shot is. That's why they missed those other two. They just might have thought like, Oh, we can't really find a location that matches that. Whatever. Yeah, but they might not have understood that people. Okay, psychos like us are going to understand. Oh, that was different. Oh, this car's missing.

00;51;16;07 - 00;51;29;03
Speaker 2
Yeah, so that's the feeling. I got this is the feeling I get is. Hey, we need to do something. Let's do it. You guys, you know, figure this out, and then they do it and they think they did a good job. And it's like, Fellas, come on.

00;51;29;03 - 00;51;29;24
Speaker 1
Talk to people.

00;51;29;25 - 00;51;47;00
Speaker 2
Talk to people. That's it. I really talk to us. Talk to anybody. Talk to air 12. Air 12 is still good for something. Oh, yeah. Like you can talk to him. Yeah, there's Like any of these guys who were OGs who played this game. Literally. Anybody as a kid. Anybody as a kid? Yeah. What? It told you that Karlis was junk?

00;51;47;21 - 00;51;48;04
Speaker 1
Oh, God.

00;51;48;04 - 00;51;50;26
Speaker 2
Yeah, right. Yeah. I don't know. I was just.

00;51;50;26 - 00;52;05;15
Speaker 1
Yeah. You ask anyone who has played all of these games in a lineage and you say, Hey, we have an idea about coming out with the 10th anniversary update. What do you think about these four cars? Ha ha ha. That's yeah.

00;52;05;15 - 00;52;09;14
Speaker 2
Or you give a list of 15 and you vote on it in the top five. Make it.

00;52;09;18 - 00;52;10;01
Speaker 1
There you go.

00;52;10;07 - 00;52;17;15
Speaker 2
That'd be cool to done. Yeah. I think that's a good idea. I know it causes issues with rights and whatnot, but I mean, due to stats, I don't care.

00;52;17;15 - 00;52;25;21
Speaker 1
Well, and you know, if that's the case, just reach out to the companies and say, hey, you know, we want to put some of these cars in the game. But it's like we.

00;52;25;21 - 00;52;47;17
Speaker 2
Were talking earlier. You can you can source and make those cars. You just can't publish them. Yeah. So just make them. Yeah. And then let people vote on them. Yeah. And then preemptively say, hey, we're thinking about this. Exactly. I mean, nothing stopping you from making it, you just can't publish it, right? Yeah. So, uh, like, I'm sure, by the way, they have every single Alfa Romeo made race.

00;52;47;17 - 00;52;48;13
Speaker 1
Oh, I guarantee it.

00;52;48;22 - 00;52;59;13
Speaker 2
I'm sure they're all made, and I'm sure they're just waiting to get through those talks. So anyways, if you enjoyed the pack, I mean, sorry, we always seem to complain on this damn show, but it's what we do. It's what needs to be done.

00;52;59;23 - 00;53;00;14
Speaker 1
It is what it is.

00;53;00;21 - 00;53;04;05
Speaker 2
We're doing the Lord's work, I think. And yeah, I don't know.

00;53;04;05 - 00;53;07;14
Speaker 1
It was why come knocking on your door. Yes. Well.

00;53;07;25 - 00;53;21;17
Speaker 2
With anything that we say on this show, I mean, we hope you're enjoying the game like at the bottom line. We hope you enjoy the franchise and whatnot as as we do and much as we have over the past ten years, which I hate saying out loud. It is scary.

00;53;22;01 - 00;53;22;15
Speaker 1
It is.

00;53;22;15 - 00;53;31;16
Speaker 2
But I mean, it's just I don't know, it's another example of it. It could have been better. Good. Not great. That's that's how I would describe it.

00;53;31;21 - 00;53;32;22
Speaker 1
It is a good way to put it.

00;53;32;22 - 00;53;44;16
Speaker 2
So but I'm happy they did something. I was horrifically disappointed when they do anything for motor sport for that was obviously a different team. Yeah. But yeah. Can't have it all. So I don't know.

00;53;44;18 - 00;53;53;06
Speaker 1
Um, let us know what you think, honestly. Like hop into the, hop into the DMS on Instagram, hop into the comments on Instagram.

00;53;53;06 - 00;54;10;18
Speaker 2
Yeah, we're going to a couple posts. We're going to post some of these cars, maybe got forgotten about a little bit here. You name one more. I'm just going to like Mike dropped this I won't actually drop because I'm going to break it but okay. Apollo Comfort and Race. Oh, what a car. Look it up. Google it. Go on your phone right now.

00;54;10;18 - 00;54;28;28
Speaker 2
I don't care if you're driving. Do it. Okay? If you're on the highway, if you're sitting in traffic, I don't care. Go on your phone. Comfort Apollo enraged. Okay. Wow, man. I'm that gray and black gloss mix of a car. Yeah, within those red and yellow neon accents. Oh.

00;54;29;12 - 00;54;29;29
Speaker 1
Man.

00;54;30;02 - 00;54;31;02
Speaker 2
Interior and exterior.

00;54;31;02 - 00;54;32;21
Speaker 1
Lights. Do you remember the lights?

00;54;32;24 - 00;54;37;19
Speaker 2
Lights thing? Yes. Oh, yes we have not seen an Apollo a jumper up at Piccolo.

00;54;37;23 - 00;54;38;20
Speaker 1
Apollo since I was a.

00;54;38;20 - 00;54;56;17
Speaker 2
Very, very long time. Yeah, in ten years. So. Oh, that would be something that would have been something to put in a significant car. And I get it. I get that it's hard to get rights for a car or a brand that doesn't exist anymore. But Apollo a brand exists and was a has got a pretty damn good relationship with them.

00;54;56;17 - 00;55;05;01
Speaker 2
As you recall, a certain unreleased Forza motorsport already has the Apollo in them. Yeah. So. Oh that. What is that so much.

00;55;05;01 - 00;55;07;01
Speaker 1
The entirety of there. It's the whole.

00;55;07;05 - 00;55;08;17
Speaker 2
Teaser trailer thing. Yeah.

00;55;08;17 - 00;55;12;01
Speaker 1
It was just 16. Apollo is racing on Laguna Seca.

00;55;12;02 - 00;55;36;23
Speaker 2
Yes, exactly. So. Oh, man, I don't know. I don't know. I just. We'll put out a list that's definitely going to be on the front of said list. We got a lot of those coming. So comment. Let us know what you think. If you're one of the people who always hassles us about the Mercedes X6 S65 continue to hassle us, please and then we'll just keep passing along the screenshots and whatever to the regular pages and they'll continue to Obama's.

00;55;37;01 - 00;55;37;23
Speaker 1
Yeah, but.

00;55;38;13 - 00;55;39;00
Speaker 2
I mean.

00;55;39;02 - 00;55;43;04
Speaker 1
I mean if we get if we get lucky, they promise majority of the time it just ignores completely.

00;55;43;17 - 00;55;52;09
Speaker 2
If the for the spies are listening to us as we think they might be sometimes. Yeah. Sliding yield DMS. That's all I have to say to you.

00;55;52;16 - 00;56;15;22
Speaker 1
And if any of the YouTube channels out there that make for the videos are listening because well, one of the things that I've noticed is couple of the podcasts we've done, we mentioned something and about two and a half weeks after we release it, I watched a YouTube video from one or two YouTube channels and they talk about exactly what we talk about is so interesting.

00;56;15;22 - 00;56;22;22
Speaker 2
Yeah, I'm not saying anything now. I'll say anything. That's when it needs to be talked about. The things we talk about need to be told.

00;56;22;22 - 00;56;33;24
Speaker 1
They do need to be talked about. So if you want if you want to if you want to take our ideas and not give us any credit, that's fine. Go for it. Sure, we don't care. But the ideas the ideas are getting out there and people are noticing it and that matters.

00;56;34;03 - 00;56;39;12
Speaker 2
Yes. And at the very least, which is the more likely scenario? We're not the only people that feel this way.

00;56;39;12 - 00;56;39;23
Speaker 1
No, we're.

00;56;39;23 - 00;56;42;21
Speaker 2
Not. We're not crazy. No. This is something that think a lot of.

00;56;42;21 - 00;56;43;09
Speaker 1
People think of.

00;56;43;10 - 00;57;01;09
Speaker 2
Yeah, I can see that being the case too, I would say. But yeah, I don't know, man. And it was 6.6. It gets a 6.6 for me to play it, enjoy it. You know, it's not every day you get something like this. It is still a significant anniversary pack. This is the first kind of anniversary, anything we've had before.

00;57;01;09 - 00;57;11;06
Speaker 2
So we've had before. So yeah, it's still exciting times, it's still good that we got it. So anyways that'll do it. That'll do it for this special edition, special episode.

00;57;11;06 - 00;57;12;16
Speaker 1
Special anniversary episode.

00;57;12;23 - 00;57;21;27
Speaker 2
Anniversary episode. Yes. We'll have another one coming up about, you know, just our general sort of show. Go back to regular programing, go.

00;57;21;27 - 00;57;23;00
Speaker 1
Back to the regular, and then.

00;57;23;02 - 00;57;44;17
Speaker 2
We're also going to have another anniversary episode just dedicated to the original game. Yeah. Where it's pure positive vibes. It is person. No, not talking about new games period. It's totally targeting about Horizon one. Yeah. I don't even want to talk about anything else right now. It's the 10th anniversary yet. We'll talk about that one. We talk about the other games except for Horizon four when it's their 10th anniversary.

00;57;44;17 - 00;57;47;11
Speaker 2
Yeah. So we've still got a ways to go for it. We do.

00;57;47;11 - 00;57;48;15
Speaker 1
We do have a ways to go for.

00;57;48;16 - 00;58;02;02
Speaker 2
Resources for that. So anyway. Well, I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed our ranting or nonsense or complaints and yeah, until next time. This has been episode something. Episode Special Edition.

00;58;02;02 - 00;58;37;02
Speaker 1
Special Edition Anniversary Edition Yes. Of the Fourth World Podcast.