On this episode, the fellas are crushing red wine and give a high energy review of Jason's newly arrived Forza Horizon 5 branded merchandise: a hoodie, a sparkly t-shirt, a license plate frame, and a 30oz tumbler. Valuable and genuine consumer advice is rare around here, but they definitely provide some useful insight to those thinking of jumping on any of those items. The talk goes further on this episode, discussing past merch (Forza Motorsport 3 shoes... Google those ASAP) as well as the potential for what should happen in the future with Forza merch. They talk about what's new in the world of Forza and discuss some of the holiday activities they had, what's broken with in-game gifting, why in the heck you can't buy any Forza Motorsport games right now, and more. Jason brings the heat in a searing, nonsensical Complaint Corner versus loose glitter, and Aren lets loose on the Hummer H2 in this week's F*** That Car. Enjoy one of our best episodes yet in Episode 11!
On this episode, the fellas are crushing red wine and give a high energy review of Jason's newly arrived Forza Horizon 5 branded merchandise: a hoodie, a sparkly t-shirt, a license plate frame, and a 30oz tumbler. Valuable and genuine consumer advice is rare around here, but they definitely provide some useful insight to those thinking of jumping on any of those items. The talk goes further on this episode, discussing past merch (Forza Motorsport 3 shoes... Google those ASAP) as well as the potential for what should happen in the future with Forza merch. They talk about what's new in the world of Forza and discuss some of the holiday activities they had, what's broken with in-game gifting, why in the heck you can't buy any Forza Motorsport games right now, and more. Jason brings the heat in a searing, nonsensical Complaint Corner versus loose glitter, and Aren lets loose on the Hummer H2 in this week's F*** That Car. Enjoy one of our best episodes yet in Episode 11!
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Speaker 1
I'm a bit on a.
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Speaker 2
Strange greasy island timetable and timing could have not eight comes a fine job.
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Speaker 3
For ourselves. Every morning is too late to choose a silver lining.
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Speaker 2
To ride it all through an open space. In my mind.
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Speaker 1
When she's right there beside me I go crazy busy as and when I want to be outside in satisfaction.
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Speaker 2
Hello and welcome to the For the World podcast.
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Speaker 3
Episode 11 Episode 11 where we're in the double digits.
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Speaker 2
That's right.
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Speaker 3
We, we, we did kind of bomb episode ten.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Episode sorry if you had to listen to episode ten, it was a bit of a stink. Yep. So it was low energy. Nothing was going on. Low energy. Yeah, I just had a big bowl of pass. So actually that lack of can crack that you hear this week is actually us sipping on some wine. It is the wine night.
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Speaker 3
It is a wine night.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. I don't I'm not I'm not a really big we're.
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Speaker 3
We're now middle aged women.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. I feel like a divorcee. Ooh. I need to have, I need to have some sort of like fur coat.
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Speaker 3
And some, some leopard print or something like that.
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Speaker 2
Uh, I think that's too far. That's. That's Cougar territory. I'm divorced and sad. So anyways, it is red wine, and I'm not a big red wine guy. No, but I did have really good red wine. The other day. It was like a pinot noir. I really says Pinot Noir stinks. That might be true, but the one I had was really good.
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Speaker 3
This is a Pinot Noir.
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Speaker 2
I'm kind of on the red wine train right now. I if I had to pick one, I'd pick a beer first. But a bad effect of wine. I would pick any German white wine. That's the move. Riesling, Zinfandel or whatever it's called.
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Speaker 3
Zinfandel.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. Those are the two. But red wines grown on demand. There's. There's some good ones out there. I just don't know what exactly I like.
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Speaker 3
We try a lot of wine. You like sweet wines?
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Speaker 2
Mm. Well, I don't think that alcohol tastes as not to be sweet. I just. I don't want to. To be like somebody put rubbing. Like rubbing alcohol in this. That's fair. That's what I want. Because there are some lines that are like that. It's particularly cheaper. Wines are kind of like that.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, I but I mean, this one like is zesty. Your take on this one.
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Speaker 2
Zesty.
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Speaker 3
You like it? Yeah. It was $20.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. I think that's where you got to be like 20 Canadian, I think is like the basement. Yeah. For like good wine. Yeah, I think if you're paying $12, sometimes eight.
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Speaker 3
Oh yeah. For the, whatever the the yellow. Yeah. Something whatever.
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Speaker 2
Yellowtail, yellowtail that stinky. Stinky. That's if you want to get warmed. Yeah. That's, that's what that is.
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Speaker 3
You get the yellowtail white and then you just drink it like juice.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Not good actually. My grandma, we were at Merry Christmas, everybody. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. So we'll call this our our Christmas show. Oh, yeah. The furthest thing from festive. But we so I was at my grandmas and they're not wine drinkers but we had wine with dinner and I was like, this is like really good. It was white wine was really good.
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Speaker 2
And I'm like, What? What is this? She's like, I don't know, the bottles in the fridge, go check it out. So she's just like, Well, look on the back of like, I'm looking, I don't know what it's called. Just a sweet white. There was no name of the wine.
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Speaker 3
Was it? Was it like one of those Canadian no name brand? No. That was a label.
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Speaker 2
Girls night out thing.
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Speaker 3
And it literally just.
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Speaker 2
Said Sweet white.
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Speaker 3
Sweet white. Yeah. Interesting.
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Speaker 2
It's like an episode of Frasier. When you go to the restaurant, you're like, What's your wine menu? It's like, Well, we have a red or white. Like, Yeah, I guess I'll take the white.
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Speaker 3
To the white sweet.
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Speaker 2
White. I don't know what that is, but oh, my God. Anyway, that's my foray into wine.
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Speaker 3
By sweet white. Interesting.
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Speaker 2
Yeah.
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Speaker 3
Uh, but, yeah. Happy, happy new year. Merry Christmas. All the festivities have already passed. It's. It's 2023 now we're getting into a new year. Mm hmm. Hopefully the same stuff doesn't happen as it did in 2022, which is Forza Horizon five came out. Oh, no. Do they did. It was the 2022 or 2021. I can't remember.
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Speaker 2
Oh my God. Oh, 2021. It was end of 2021 man.
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Speaker 3
Was it 2021.
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Speaker 2
Yeah.
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Speaker 3
So it's been over a year already. Yep. Oh, my goodness. That just shows you how much I care about this game.
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Speaker 2
But yeah, it's in a weird state right now. Like, I mean, for those listening at home, um, um. I don't know, like, let us know in the comments. We'll be making some posts, but like, it's wearing off. Well, it's had its run, you know what I mean? Like, it's that initial four month periods, usually when everybody's pretty fired up about it.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, I don't think about it a lot right now. I'm not thinking a lot about the game. There's more about.
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Speaker 3
Motorsport. Yeah, there's, there's a couple of things like that we want to go over with on on the topic of horizon first off and I know this is going to get you going is the merch.
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Speaker 2
Oh my God.
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Speaker 3
I mean, I'm wearing the sweater right now, which is so sick. It is a very zesty hoodie. Sorry, you can't buy it. It's already sold.
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Speaker 2
Out. It is.
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Speaker 3
Sucks to suck.
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Speaker 2
They've been stocked it once. But that was.
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Speaker 3
They did well. As soon as they restocked it we were on it. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. But the other stuff, the, the t shirt, the tumbler thing, whatever that is, the license plate cover. I, I know, I know you were feeling quite strongly about this, so I'll let you take over.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, well, so, so here's, here's the recap, right? So Aaron's got this hoodie on. Yes. Very nice. 80% cotton. I got a medium. I should probably be in a large. I was probably going to shrink and they're not making any more of that kind of blows. But it's this nice cream color. It's got like this like design on the sleeve, like some sort of racing stripe thing, which is kind of nice, like this pink and it's nice and it's got the 10th anniversary logo specifically.
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Speaker 2
So it's not just for the one. This is kind of like a one off special hoodie, which is cool. Great. It was $95 Canadian. Canadian. So 70 ish. No difference. 35% difference. So it'd be 65, probably 75 bucks. 75. But I don't know too much.
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Speaker 3
Too much, too much for a hoodie.
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Speaker 2
That is my point in insane. It is nice.
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Speaker 3
It is.
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Speaker 2
Nice. It's very wearable. It's going to look good if it fades, if it doesn't fade, whatever. It is nice that way.
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Speaker 3
I still don't think it's it's justifiable if if four is a had a merch store that was consistent that you knew for a fact you were getting a good quality item every single time for charge 95 Canadian for it.
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Speaker 2
So here's the thing. This is my first experience. Yeah, the new Xbox for the store, whatever you want to call it, Xbox basically runs this store, the platform anyways, so you can add Halo stuff to your cart in addition to it. Fine. Let's go through each product. Okay. So I get the hurry. That's all. Fine and dandy. I get a license plate covers about $25.
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Speaker 2
Okay. Quite a bit of money.
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Speaker 3
And is quite a bit of money to play.
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Speaker 2
Cover for license plate cover at face value. Right. So I think okay, well the hoodies are a lot of money. The plate covers a bit much for a pretty uninspired design, but it's probably nasty, right? There's a black option or white option. I'm thinking this is going to be great. Yeah, it is thin. It is very thin. It's like sheet metal.
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Speaker 3
Sheet metal.
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Speaker 2
It is basically sheet like a thin tin kind of sheet metal thing.
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Speaker 3
Oh, is that like one of those things where people like compress a couple layers of aluminum foil and the like area? Oh, it's a license plate cover pretty much.
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Speaker 2
Oh, so put it this way, it came in the mail bent, so it's already got a big gnarly bend in and I can't really get it out. Okay. And it's thin, man. Like, I can't get this on my car. Like, there's nothing to screw it on too. There's no really well, there's no stopper if you think about a plate cover, usually around where the screw goes, there's like a perforated rubber.
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Speaker 3
Stopper.
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Speaker 2
Rubber or something. It just comes out a little bit more to balance it out. I won't have to jam 13 washers onto this thing just to make it makes sense. Oh, ridiculous. So screw.
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Speaker 3
That. Imagine that's $25 license plate cover scratching your whatever thousand dollar pain.
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Speaker 2
Yes, I would probably kill myself, to be honest. Then paint that so anyways.
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Speaker 3
Probably Sue. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
Xbox is ridiculous. I am going to try to get the money back on that because it's ridiculous. So please, please, if you think it's going be cool. I thought the same thing. Don't buy it. It's terrible. I'm going to have all of this posted honestly tomorrow. And Jesus, it's just way too wispy. That's the end of that. Now they have a thermal kind of cup thing, like a coffee tumbler cup.
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Speaker 3
Like a yeti.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, kind of like yeti. Right? Same. Same deal. Right. Very expensive. $48 Canadian. Okay.
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Speaker 3
So for $48 Canadian for.
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Speaker 2
The 20 ounce, okay, it is $50 for the 30 ounce. So 50% more volume for.
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Speaker 3
Okay, for $2.
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Speaker 2
So easy decision 30. Yeah. Usually it's terrible. It's terrible. It's this matte black kind of yeti inspired cup. It looks the identical, which looks nice, obviously. Yeah. And there's a cutout of the 10th anniversary logo in silver. Beautiful, right? Yeah. It gets here. It's very apparent that the way this is lasered, it's going to ship. It's going to look crap to me.
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Speaker 2
A little silver speckles all over at once. It gets dinged up fine. I don't care. But it's not even a yeti, first of all, which I should have saw coming and I respect there's no seal on the lid, so there's no mean like with the mouth thing as we're all.
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Speaker 3
Oh, yeah, like, okay, so, so it doesn't close in any way.
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Speaker 2
No. You know, there's like a little slider usually a thing you kind of see. Yeah. Yeah. And some of them too. The Porsche ones.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, the Porsche one's flipped so.
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Speaker 2
There's nothing.
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Speaker 3
Enough. So it's just consistently open.
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Speaker 2
Yes. For a market of people that are going to have it probably in their car. Cupholder probably breaking multiple traffic laws, most likely. I'm just saying, when you're blowing through a stop sign or you're speeding, the two things you don't want is cold brew all over your pants and or dash and order cupholder area. Yeah. And that's going to happen with this cup.
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Speaker 2
Absolutely. There's no seal on it. You don't want this cup. This what does it do?
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Speaker 3
You don't want your AMG button getting sticky because your cold brew spilled out of your the 10th anniversary cup.
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Speaker 2
You know, it's the same thing as the other two items. It's a lot of money.
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Speaker 3
It is a lot of is there is a lot of money.
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Speaker 2
It's a crap to show up. Yeah, right. And an unmarked box that they probably got done at the corner store across the road from.
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Speaker 3
The fact that I am looking at the box right now, there's no markings on it.
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Speaker 2
It's nothing.
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Speaker 3
It's just a plain white box.
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Speaker 2
Yes. So the experience was terrible. I got a bent, stupid license plate. Carpet's going to scratch with paint. I got this stupid spilling sippy cup that shows up for $50 and I got a hoodie that's probably going to shrink because it's 80% cotton. I didn't realize that. That's more so on me. And it does look good. So again, no, but the piece de resistance here.
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Speaker 2
You're not even finished. I ordered. No, no, no. We got.
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Speaker 3
Oh, all right.
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Speaker 2
The stupid 50th anniversary, t shirt, 50th or 10th anniversary. Go t shirts, write something in the 5 minutes. Okay. My mind's got a mile a minute here, so. Okay, it's, it's a black t shirt. 40 years. It's a black t shirt. This like pink sort of purply color for for the logo.
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Speaker 3
Is it the same C. No.
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Speaker 2
No, it's different. It's a different marker. It's closer to a purple. It's like a hot pink.
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Speaker 3
Like a fuchsia.
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Speaker 2
Yes, exactly.
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Speaker 3
Okay.
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Speaker 2
So it looked cool on the site and it looks cool in person to an extent. But then I realized it's glitter, the whole thing. It's a men's t shirt and it's clear is like aggressive glitter. And it's not.
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Speaker 3
Like the the entire logo.
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Speaker 2
Yes. The iron chest. It's not in the corner. It's not in that. It's your entire chest. That's just so area.
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Speaker 3
Oh that's just fuchsia glitter.
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Speaker 2
And it's flaking off already in the packaging. Everywhere. Glitter everywhere, man. It's not like it's sealed in or continue. It's got like that, like clear coat thing over it. Yeah. No, this is like to the touch this thing is flaking off like it has some sort of aggressive dandruff. It is absolutely outrageous. So even shipped that.
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Speaker 3
It's like someone basically trace the 10th anniversary logo with a glue stick and then shook a bunch of glitter on top of it. And I'm like, yep, that's a there we go. We shipped that.
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Speaker 2
I honestly it was more like they glued up the pink slash purple color, right? Yeah, glue that up. But then the guy didn't glue it and then they just dumped the bag of glitter on it, rolled it in a plastic bag, shipped it out, and then charge me duty for it. By the way, sick. I paid $30 worth of duty, which was.
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Speaker 3
Oh, my God.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, crazy.
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Speaker 3
So four shirts.
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Speaker 2
Yes, for shirts. So this whole experience was so bad. Like, I will probably clip this and publish it somewhere because it's insane after all these years, it's been basically ten years since they've done some sort of formalized merchandise store. The last year, when they had the panic edition, they had to have a little individual items for the t shirts.
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Speaker 2
Forza Motorsport five is the last time they did that. So that would remember.
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Speaker 3
Do you remember those blue that blue T-shirt?
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Speaker 2
I think I do have that upstairs.
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Speaker 3
I know you have them somewhere. It's really nice.
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Speaker 2
The merch was great. The merch was actually not necessarily through Xbox. It was three fourths of themselves. So all the things had for tags that Xbox tags fine, that kind of cool. But funny enough now anything think that that was motorsport five. That was motorsport that was free horizon.
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Speaker 2
The last time there was a store. No I think so.
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Speaker 3
No. Because Motorsport five was Xbox One, Horizon was 360.
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Speaker 2
And it was box one. There was too.
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Speaker 3
Much.
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Speaker 2
Oh, no, I'm stupid. No, no, no. Sorry.
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Speaker 3
That was Horizon two.
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Speaker 2
Horizon two.
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Speaker 3
Muppets.
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Speaker 2
I am a muppet. So. But they didn't have any Horizon merch.
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Speaker 3
They didn't have any Horizon merch.
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Speaker 2
They never.
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Speaker 3
Did.
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Speaker 2
It was it might have predated it. They might have pre-dated that now.
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Speaker 3
But what I find interesting is Forza had merch long before motorsport five era because they had a couple of shirts for motorsport for one of them was including the track list, which was Do you remember that shirt I use like a white t shirt with every single track list layout?
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Speaker 2
Um, yeah. Yeah. Force has always had merch. I'm just talking a formalized ecom store.
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Speaker 3
No, that's.
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Speaker 2
That's it. They've always had merch. They can find fine motorsport. Two, three. Do you remember.
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Speaker 3
Do you remember the shoes from Forza motorsport three.
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Speaker 2
If you're listening and you're not driving actually if you're driving, do it to Google right now Forza motorsport.
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Speaker 3
Three my god.
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Speaker 2
Made by Puma.
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Speaker 3
If anybody if anybody listening has a pair of these Forza motorsport three shoes in a size nine US, I will pay you absurd amounts of money to get these shoes.
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Speaker 2
This man will get a loan.
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Speaker 3
I will get a loan. I will go bankrupt for these shoes. I'm shoe guy. I wanted these shoes for so long since motorsport three. Yeah, I have one of these shoes.
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Speaker 2
I am. I saw them on eBay. They were about a grand or something around there. Well, a lot of money.
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Speaker 3
They were a lot of money. The last time I found a pair, they were size eight, which was one size smaller than what I would wear.
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Speaker 2
Come with you. Wouldn't wear them. I would never wear them.
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Speaker 3
I would. I would wear them occasionally. I would wear them.
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Speaker 2
To endorse I would.
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Speaker 3
Wear them to events. Like if I if we went to driven, I would wear them too driven. If we went to like an automotive event, I would wear them to that just.
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Speaker 2
So that it was in dollars. You'd wear them. You know, I wouldn't, yeah. If I paid that much, I they'd be an indoor only you know.
00;15;30;24 - 00;15;37;02
Speaker 3
I'd wear 100% of them. Do you know why? Do you know why? Because I'm not going to sell them. I'm not going to sell them.
00;15;37;02 - 00;15;38;04
Speaker 2
Just you really do.
00;15;38;04 - 00;15;41;01
Speaker 3
I really think. You really think I would slip.
00;15;41;02 - 00;15;43;06
Speaker 2
In a coolant leak? I've driven. I'm going to cry.
00;15;43;06 - 00;15;56;13
Speaker 3
I do not care. I do not care. If you think I'm going to pay $1,000 for shoes and not wear them. You are an idiot. Mm. I do not care people. Do you know how. How much people pay for shoes nowadays?
00;15;57;01 - 00;15;57;17
Speaker 2
But thousands and.
00;15;57;25 - 00;16;02;13
Speaker 3
Thousands. Thousands. Not a thousand. Thousands of dollars.
00;16;02;13 - 00;16;05;14
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's. It's the market's ridiculous, but.
00;16;05;14 - 00;16;09;19
Speaker 3
I'm excited for the party shoes that I got coming in. Yeah, he does show up a lot. Well, hang on.
00;16;09;19 - 00;16;13;03
Speaker 2
We'll talk about that in a sec. We will. Because I do want to touch on other.
00;16;13;20 - 00;16;14;06
Speaker 3
Otherize.
00;16;14;10 - 00;16;38;13
Speaker 2
Other. Yeah. Not just good general clothing. Yes, this stinks. This is terrible. I can't believe this is the experience. Hang on. Okay. I'm sorry. This is. I can't believe this is the experience I had. Like, the whole thing sucked. How does a car not car company, but, like, car brand? Yeah. The worst license plate holder I've ever seen.
00;16;38;19 - 00;16;43;18
Speaker 2
Worse than things that you can get at a gas station. Like you get a Toronto Maple Leafs car.
00;16;43;29 - 00;16;46;10
Speaker 3
What ice to cover, whatever it is, it's like plastic.
00;16;46;10 - 00;16;55;26
Speaker 2
Oh, my God. Plastic would've been so much better. Oh, like, it's just, I. I can't believe they even shipped the shirt with that much glitter. Yeah, all. You saw it? I saw it discussed.
00;16;55;28 - 00;16;57;21
Speaker 3
It's a lot of glitter, right? It is a lot of good.
00;16;57;21 - 00;17;14;21
Speaker 2
Price aside, I don't understand who the hell is approving this stuff. And it's so disappointing. And we say it every week, the last thing we want to do when we're putting our notes together is come up with all these negative things, be like, Oh, how can we be assholes this week? Now, now we want to find something positive to talk about.
00;17;14;21 - 00;17;18;16
Speaker 2
We were so pumped we expected to be like, Okay, you got to get this. This is good. This is bad.
00;17;18;17 - 00;17;19;00
Speaker 3
Oh yeah.
00;17;19;03 - 00;17;20;02
Speaker 2
Like one.
00;17;20;02 - 00;17;20;09
Speaker 3
Hundred.
00;17;20;09 - 00;17;23;18
Speaker 2
Percent. This is bad. The weird thing is kind of nice. The sweaters.
00;17;23;18 - 00;17;24;29
Speaker 3
Especially the hoodie. Yeah, but.
00;17;24;29 - 00;17;27;13
Speaker 2
So how the hell do you do the hoodie and then everything else.
00;17;27;13 - 00;17;32;16
Speaker 3
And then everything else is terrible. I know. And that was that was our biggest frustration. So when.
00;17;32;25 - 00;17;33;27
Speaker 2
It's just who's signing off.
00;17;34;01 - 00;17;55;01
Speaker 3
I know when when Xbox and for as it did the store we were pumped. We were so unbelievably pumped because again the last time that they did a big product like this was the panic pack, which both Jason I purchased. I had a couple issues with mine having things stolen. So that sucks. I know it's yeah, it is what it is.
00;17;55;01 - 00;17;59;04
Speaker 3
I can't get them back and I'm not going to be able to find a panic pack ever again.
00;17;59;06 - 00;18;01;21
Speaker 2
Well, yeah, not without paying $1,000.
00;18;01;21 - 00;18;19;20
Speaker 3
$2,000, exactly. Which I'd rather buy the shoes for anyway. So when this merch came out, when the, when the, when we saw the hoodie, when we saw the T-shirt and the trucker hat and the license plate cover and the tumbler and all that stuff, we were pumped. We were thinking, finally, this stuff is coming back. This is going to be great.
00;18;19;20 - 00;18;30;27
Speaker 3
We're going to be able to you know, we're going to pick up all this stuff and we're going to do a full show about it and we're going to talk about it and how great this is and how excited we were about this coming in a.
00;18;30;28 - 00;18;31;27
Speaker 2
Slam dunk.
00;18;31;27 - 00;18;38;09
Speaker 3
Like, yeah, yeah, we were it should have been a slam dunk. The only thing that we would be able to recommend you is the hoodie.
00;18;38;25 - 00;18;40;14
Speaker 2
Even then, I have a tough time.
00;18;40;14 - 00;18;41;13
Speaker 3
And it's sold out.
00;18;41;19 - 00;18;42;21
Speaker 2
It is sold out.
00;18;42;21 - 00;18;44;10
Speaker 3
You can't you can't buy it.
00;18;45;05 - 00;18;49;24
Speaker 2
Yeah, and I get it. It was a limited thing. It was the anniversary edition kind of thing. But but come out.
00;18;49;24 - 00;18;51;25
Speaker 3
With other stuff, then come out with other.
00;18;51;25 - 00;18;54;27
Speaker 2
Stuff, know, but like 95 bucks. Like, I know it's like.
00;18;55;08 - 00;18;58;01
Speaker 3
It's is it worth 95 bucks? I don't need.
00;18;58;01 - 00;19;10;26
Speaker 2
It for a better one. For under 495. I could have made one that was better. I could have crumbled 100%. Yeah, but I get the idea of having officially licensed merch and everything. I prefer to do that. Yeah, I get it. That's the only thing. That's just for sure.
00;19;11;01 - 00;19;18;06
Speaker 3
And that's. And that's it. And, and that's the difficult thing is we, we don't like slamming for so we don't.
00;19;18;07 - 00;19;22;13
Speaker 2
This is so old. I'm so sick of it. It is. But I'm not going to sit here and tell you it's good.
00;19;22;13 - 00;19;22;24
Speaker 3
No.
00;19;23;12 - 00;19;38;26
Speaker 2
I paid all this stupid money for this glitter bomb that I got in this stupid sippy cup. Okay? So that I can inform the people. And I can tell you that this is absolute dog water. Yes. This is what we do with the show is a boat. We're not going to peddle any crap. We tell it as it is.
00;19;39;06 - 00;19;43;24
Speaker 2
This is what it is, you know, by the hood. But you can't this is not having you.
00;19;43;24 - 00;19;52;07
Speaker 3
Know, what this is like. This is like for I was going to say, this is one of those Top Gear Top Gear shows where you're like, oh, yeah, this is the car that you want to buy, but you can't because it's already sold out.
00;19;52;07 - 00;19;56;19
Speaker 2
So so top gear, top tip, don't bother going on the store because there's nothing to buy.
00;19;56;20 - 00;20;03;17
Speaker 3
Because there's nothing to buy. And the only thing that you want is already sold out. So thanks for coming. Have a great night. And this was episode 11.
00;20;03;17 - 00;20;23;24
Speaker 2
Yeah, we will. Goodnight. Yeah, we will post if that hoodie does come back in stock. I do have email restock as back on so yeah. If it does happen we'll put something on the story right away. So make sure you subscribe to like our stories or whatever. Yeah. Because it's possible to have restocked it once that's yeah. We actually got our hoodies, we were on the restock list so yeah.
00;20;24;20 - 00;20;44;18
Speaker 2
Anyways it's old, it's getting old, it's whatever. I can't believe they signed up on the I can't believe they signed off on the license plate holder especially any dummy would have realized that you can't screwed on anything like this so genuinely has nothing to screw on to like. Yeah so it's just ridiculous. So anyways and I think I might actually have to board out to get it on.
00;20;44;27 - 00;20;45;20
Speaker 3
Really.
00;20;45;20 - 00;21;04;21
Speaker 2
I think so. I think they're snooping around my car. Okay, so, um, needless to say, you know, we might just give that away. Yeah, like I. They're not calling me return it or anything, but it's a tough one. It's a tough one. I think. I don't know. I've never seen another racing game have a store, though. It seems like a bit of an opportunity.
00;21;04;21 - 00;21;10;07
Speaker 2
I can't recall Granturismo having anything like that. I don't think Dirt has had anything like that.
00;21;10;10 - 00;21;11;09
Speaker 3
Dirt, honestly.
00;21;11;09 - 00;21;13;04
Speaker 2
For speed, I don't know if they have a.
00;21;13;04 - 00;21;25;08
Speaker 3
Certain need for speed. I don't know if they they have done stuff with Puma before. They have because I bought those shoes and very zesty. They are beautiful, wonderful shoes. I love them like that was that was a wonderful purchase.
00;21;25;09 - 00;21;27;06
Speaker 2
Makes you think where they don't do that collab though but.
00;21;27;06 - 00;21;29;16
Speaker 3
That's that's exactly what I'm thinking. So I want.
00;21;29;16 - 00;21;32;16
Speaker 2
Somebody who knows how the hell to make a shirt, for Christ's sake.
00;21;32;16 - 00;21;33;10
Speaker 3
Exactly.
00;21;33;10 - 00;21;40;05
Speaker 2
Somebody with a printing press that is in the back of a shed. Yes. Equivalent of what we got right now. That would do it. That's why it's only F1 stuff.
00;21;40;05 - 00;21;43;18
Speaker 3
Puma does all the stuff. They do BMW stuff, they do Porsche stuff.
00;21;43;18 - 00;21;48;02
Speaker 2
They do Porsche legacy Porsche like the whatever Porsche expensive collection.
00;21;48;02 - 00;21;50;18
Speaker 3
Yeah, the Porsche design.
00;21;50;26 - 00;21;55;08
Speaker 2
Yes, that's it. That's it. It's exactly what it is. Porsche expensive collection.
00;21;55;20 - 00;21;57;17
Speaker 3
Is the one that you can't afford 350.
00;21;57;17 - 00;22;02;13
Speaker 2
Dollars for a T-shirt. Yeah. Yeah. Bullet through my head. Yeah. Seem out of enjoyment. Does.
00;22;03;17 - 00;22;06;02
Speaker 3
Does does puma do Mercedes or is that.
00;22;06;07 - 00;22;07;09
Speaker 2
They do Petronas.
00;22;07;10 - 00;22;08;04
Speaker 3
They do Petronas.
00;22;08;13 - 00;22;20;02
Speaker 2
White for AMG stuff. It's kind of a blend. Like sometimes they do stuff, but usually it's like they pick and choose who. Puma does have the license for anything like F1. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Which is interesting.
00;22;20;10 - 00;22;23;16
Speaker 3
And F1 merch is great. It's phenomenal.
00;22;23;21 - 00;22;32;14
Speaker 2
Stuff that they do is excellent. Yeah, they do. So they do Ferrari. They do Red Bull. They do Mercedes. What's missing? Those are the big ones.
00;22;32;14 - 00;22;33;09
Speaker 3
Those are the big ones.
00;22;33;26 - 00;22;40;24
Speaker 2
But it's beautiful stuff. McLaren No, no, not to. My God, they might have in the past, but currently it's not in the store.
00;22;41;23 - 00;22;42;11
Speaker 3
Because there's.
00;22;42;11 - 00;22;43;14
Speaker 2
A new Porsche motorsport.
00;22;43;14 - 00;22;44;16
Speaker 3
They do Porsche motorsport.
00;22;44;16 - 00;22;45;09
Speaker 2
W motorsport.
00;22;45;21 - 00;22;53;24
Speaker 3
Yep, yep. Well that was the thing. There's, there's a couple of things in the Puma store that were Porsche Motorsport and BMW Motorsport that I was arguing over.
00;22;54;12 - 00;23;02;17
Speaker 2
There's a lot, man, I don't want to tell you because you're going to buy them. But there are some really nice Red Bull shoes and some really nice BMW shoes right now. Okay.
00;23;03;03 - 00;23;10;19
Speaker 3
So, okay, so this is the thing. First of all, I have I do want to get on the topic of shoes because I want to talk about the plot issues that I that I have ordered. Shooting.
00;23;10;23 - 00;23;12;05
Speaker 2
Shoe episode, shoe episode.
00;23;13;00 - 00;23;16;25
Speaker 3
Shoe shoe. Just kidding. No, stay here. Stay here and listen to the rest of the post.
00;23;16;26 - 00;23;27;29
Speaker 2
Also, dilemmas with your merch ideas. Please, please, please, please. Yes, yes, yes. This is the point. Start thinking about what we're talking about and like if there's any cool merch ideas. I just know, cause I wouldn't mind marking some stuff up if we can.
00;23;28;01 - 00;23;35;27
Speaker 3
Oh, 100%. Yeah. Like this. That was one of the things that as soon as we got the sweaters and the shirts and stuff like that, really, we could do this way better.
00;23;36;26 - 00;23;40;14
Speaker 2
Well, we could. Like, it's just. That's why it's so frustrating. But it is.
00;23;40;26 - 00;23;53;23
Speaker 3
So if you have any good ideas, send us a message. But this is. This is what I'm getting at. So, Portia, I don't want to first of all, I don't want to buy any BMW motorsport shoes because my BMW is not in M Division.
00;23;53;26 - 00;23;54;19
Speaker 2
Yeah. You.
00;23;54;19 - 00;23;55;10
Speaker 3
That's why I don't want to.
00;23;55;10 - 00;24;02;12
Speaker 2
Be like you. That's why I didn't buy any. I bought a bunch of AMG stuff before I got my car, like a year before. Yeah. And I didn't use it once until like.
00;24;02;12 - 00;24;04;12
Speaker 3
Until you got your car. Yeah. Yeah. And that's like.
00;24;04;12 - 00;24;13;28
Speaker 2
That's a dorky thing, but it is. Most car people would do that. Yeah. I don't feel like I've earned the honor of having AMG stuff and I'm driving around in a Nissan. Yeah, it doesn't work well.
00;24;13;28 - 00;24;33;04
Speaker 3
And that's that's the thing I don't have. I don't want to drive around in, you know, a non m five series and then show up to a car, meet in a big five series. And then it's just like, yeah. BMW Motorsport track, BMW Motorsport track shoes. Like, Oh, yeah, I took, I took my, my four cylinder five series to the track.
00;24;33;04 - 00;24;52;15
Speaker 3
Yeah. Don't, don't hate on me like I'm not going to do that. But the, what I'm getting at is if Forza or if Xbox and I'm, I'm saying this to Forza, if you collaborate with someone who knows how to fucking make some clothing, somebody, somebody, anybody.
00;24;52;20 - 00;24;54;03
Speaker 2
Aeropostale for all I care.
00;24;54;06 - 00;25;15;29
Speaker 3
Oh, no. But this is so shoes. If you want to if you want to team up and do some shoes again, because I know you guys are looking and I know how desirable those Forza Motorsport three shoes are. And I know for a fact that you guys know how desirable those Forza Motorsport shoe three shoes are. Yes. How about you, team up with a shoe company like Pallotta?
00;25;16;05 - 00;25;36;20
Speaker 3
Because they teamed up with Lehman and they did a 24 hour of Lehman collab and they have two that are left. There's like a gray one in the Navy, one. Both of them are sick, but then they have this limited run, one that was white. And the the bottom of the shoe, the sole of the shoe was translucent.
00;25;36;26 - 00;25;44;09
Speaker 3
And it had the le surf track layout underneath the sole of the shoe.
00;25;44;09 - 00;25;45;05
Speaker 2
It was like translucent.
00;25;45;08 - 00;25;57;16
Speaker 3
Like translucent. You could see the full outline of the track. It was so sick. I wanted one of those. That's how it so that's how to make a shoe and that is how to make a shoe. Imagine that with the with the as a logo.
00;25;57;19 - 00;25;58;18
Speaker 2
How do you spell pillow D again?
00;25;59;00 - 00;26;00;15
Speaker 3
Pillow tie.
00;26;00;15 - 00;26;02;20
Speaker 2
Yeah, check that out. Yes, that does sound one.
00;26;02;20 - 00;26;22;15
Speaker 3
Hundred percent because I know every once in a while straight pipes have discount codes for them. They had a new year sale, which is where I got the two shoes from. But they're the driving shoes and some of the tread, like some of the sole. The shoe is in the pattern of a tire tread.
00;26;22;18 - 00;26;28;22
Speaker 2
Yeah, that's kind of their M.O.. I think they've done that quite a bit. I've seen Puma did that. Yeah, a couple of theirs, which is very cool.
00;26;28;23 - 00;26;29;11
Speaker 3
It's very cool.
00;26;29;26 - 00;26;34;13
Speaker 2
It's a bit dorky when you're walking around in the mud and then the tire tracks. Yeah.
00;26;35;08 - 00;26;37;14
Speaker 3
I don't care. I think it's. I think it's really.
00;26;37;14 - 00;26;38;28
Speaker 2
Cool, really listening. Would think it's cool. Yeah.
00;26;38;29 - 00;26;46;03
Speaker 3
So I, I'm super excited for those to come in. I'm going to be, we're going to be posting pictures of those. Yeah. When they come in for sure.
00;26;46;07 - 00;26;55;14
Speaker 2
Yeah. I've actually you know, I've been slack and I want to post kind of a round up of all the for the merch I have accrued over the past couple of years because there's some good stuff.
00;26;55;15 - 00;26;56;16
Speaker 3
There is some good, good stuff.
00;26;56;16 - 00;27;11;11
Speaker 2
And now that we've got this review out, I kind of want to show what's been done in the past and just how much better it was. It was ten years ago, for Christ's sake. Oh, I know. Better somehow. Anyway, so that's. That's pretty much it though I think for the merch like whatever.
00;27;11;18 - 00;27;31;20
Speaker 3
I buy again I, if Forza wants to do merch you need to talk to people who actually know how to do merch. I'm sure you'll hear a little bit of a clip in at the end of the episode of us arguing and making some weird noises of the the Puma shop. Yes, but they know how to make some merch.
00;27;31;28 - 00;27;40;24
Speaker 3
So at this point, just team up. Team up. Yeah. If you want to charge $90 for a sweater, charge $90 for a sweater, but have a be a puma sweater.
00;27;40;26 - 00;28;00;10
Speaker 2
Well, here's here's the thinking behind what you're saying. I'm sure the reason that the way they have the store structured right now is because they want to sell direct. And that's where the margins are. Right. I think that's fair. Rather than being scared of working with somebody to produce merch, why would you not do it? Need for speed did work with Puma.
00;28;00;14 - 00;28;15;19
Speaker 2
Okay. Get to a wider audience because those are people that shop for clothes. Oh yeah, right. People on Xbox are looking for Fortnite cards right on the store and then they just stumble upon the store. Right. So you're going to make more sales. They'll probably be around the same amount of money you're already making, if not more.
00;28;15;19 - 00;28;16;14
Speaker 3
On the Puma store.
00;28;16;14 - 00;28;23;03
Speaker 2
The quality will be way better on the store, and I'm sure that Puma would pay something.
00;28;23;08 - 00;28;25;00
Speaker 3
To use on 100%.
00;28;25;07 - 00;28;39;02
Speaker 2
Right? Like if you approached them, it was like we're thinking about doing this. Would you like it's not like they're paying Puma. It's kind of like a pretty big partnership. Like, yeah, they want that as much as Microsoft wants it. So yeah. Oh my God. And it doesn't even.
00;28;39;02 - 00;28;43;01
Speaker 3
Have to be Microsoft. Like if, if turn ten went up to Puma and was like, Hey, we.
00;28;43;02 - 00;28;47;11
Speaker 2
Don't have the ability to do that anymore. It is possible that Microsoft.
00;28;47;11 - 00;28;53;26
Speaker 3
No, Microsoft might get in the might Microsoft might get in the way of things and stuff like that. And if that's the case, then sure, whatever.
00;28;53;26 - 00;28;56;07
Speaker 2
They still should be able to market their own IP.
00;28;56;08 - 00;29;15;29
Speaker 3
If that's the case. If you go to, you know, if turn ten or Microsoft or whoever it is who's doing the merch stuff, if you guys go up to Puma and say, Hey, we want to do a line of clothing and shoes for our A brand, which has been out for over, what, 20 years now?
00;29;16;11 - 00;29;18;29
Speaker 2
For us, it doesn't hit 20, but get in there.
00;29;19;00 - 00;29;23;00
Speaker 3
It's getting there. It's almost there because what was it, 2004?
00;29;23;10 - 00;29;27;27
Speaker 2
2004? Is it was this 20 years? Ten years was not too long ago.
00;29;28;08 - 00;29;29;07
Speaker 3
Well, the ten years.
00;29;29;07 - 00;29;30;01
Speaker 2
Up in real time, what was.
00;29;30;01 - 00;29;33;27
Speaker 3
The what was the ten year for. It was motorsport six. Was it.
00;29;34;26 - 00;29;40;16
Speaker 2
Yes, it was for motorsport six. When did. 2005. 2005. Okay. 25.
00;29;41;00 - 00;29;51;04
Speaker 3
So in in 2025, 2025, we're hitting 20 years of Forza motorsport, which is a big deal for.
00;29;51;04 - 00;29;51;13
Speaker 2
Us as a.
00;29;51;13 - 00;29;56;09
Speaker 3
Brand. For us as a brand, yeah. So in three years.
00;29;56;11 - 00;29;57;05
Speaker 2
Interestingly, three.
00;29;57;21 - 00;30;06;22
Speaker 3
Half years. No, but they did the ten years and they did the the horizon ten year. So I think that was kind of like it would have been an awkward timing.
00;30;07;16 - 00;30;11;18
Speaker 2
Mercedes is celebrating the 55th year anniversary right now. It's kind of stupid, I know.
00;30;11;18 - 00;30;17;16
Speaker 3
But if you keep in mind, you can't purchase Forza Motorsport seven.
00;30;17;16 - 00;30;33;29
Speaker 2
That's true. And it is a mystery. Now, what's up with why the winning campaign? How the hell do they see that coming? Like I know there was the delay and everything like that with COVID, but that would have meant that the moment that game comes out, Forza eight, whatever you want to call this new game, the moment that comes out, the old one's obsolete.
00;30;34;14 - 00;30;44;14
Speaker 2
Know that you always get the one kind of year overlap, right? Like how did you not play in the right way? Like, how did you plan at that time? You're so stupid.
00;30;44;14 - 00;30;46;09
Speaker 3
You can still play like Horizon three.
00;30;47;00 - 00;30;49;05
Speaker 2
Yeah, well, purchase I think the big thing.
00;30;49;05 - 00;30;55;14
Speaker 3
Oh you can still purchase Horizon three. You can still purchase Ryzen two. Mm hmm. Horizon one is backwards compatible. Oh.
00;30;56;17 - 00;30;58;24
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's a trickier area, but I get what you mean.
00;30;59;20 - 00;31;02;01
Speaker 3
I thought. I mean, I think you can still purchase.
00;31;02;04 - 00;31;03;27
Speaker 2
The to one did today.
00;31;04;02 - 00;31;04;22
Speaker 3
Yeah okay.
00;31;04;28 - 00;31;06;17
Speaker 2
Because we get a lot of diamonds about so.
00;31;06;17 - 00;31;08;02
Speaker 3
1010 years ago.
00;31;08;28 - 00;31;19;05
Speaker 2
That's different though. That's music rights. That's music rights. That's fair, right. That's car rights with all of them. Yeah. He's a great in addition to car rights. Yeah, I get that. That's hard to balance music. Yeah. You know, different it's.
00;31;19;06 - 00;31;19;18
Speaker 3
Music.
00;31;19;18 - 00;31;43;01
Speaker 2
So my Christ my brother in Christ. Okay, I don't understand why it was planned that then where now you have this bizarre time because of COVID, to be fair. But there's just no motorsport game like everybody can just screw off. Like you can't buy anything that is so piss poor planning. And I know we give a lot of credit to turn ten and not a lot to playground.
00;31;43;01 - 00;31;44;11
Speaker 2
That's typically how.
00;31;44;11 - 00;31;45;04
Speaker 3
Typically how it.
00;31;45;04 - 00;32;06;13
Speaker 2
Goes things. Yeah so turn I think this is a well-deserved criticism that they've already gotten but they're going to get some more. It's stupid. There's nothing going on. There's no notes, there's no news. Like they need to drop a couple more tidbits here and there. But I will say the insta admin admins have been very cool to us.
00;32;06;13 - 00;32;18;06
Speaker 2
They have me, they've very cool couple DMS. Yeah. But comments back and forth. Yeah they are cool. I do like them. We like, we like pretty much all the content we like like a select. I want to fight whoever's in charge of merch.
00;32;18;09 - 00;32;18;17
Speaker 3
I was.
00;32;18;17 - 00;32;19;22
Speaker 2
Going to fight them the.
00;32;19;22 - 00;32;25;04
Speaker 3
Motor. Well, okay. Keep in mind the motorsport team wasn't the one that did this merch. This is.
00;32;25;04 - 00;32;25;29
Speaker 2
The this is Horizon.
00;32;25;29 - 00;32;29;00
Speaker 3
Since the Horizon team which we already know.
00;32;29;06 - 00;32;31;07
Speaker 2
But I don't know who controls.
00;32;31;07 - 00;32;32;01
Speaker 3
They're the yellow haired.
00;32;32;01 - 00;32;47;04
Speaker 2
Ones for Forza right. Like, is it like we know who did the game but is it is there a microsoft Dick that's doing all this? And neither of the four is the teams are doing this and they're listen, are not yelling at us. We can't do anything about this.
00;32;47;05 - 00;32;47;20
Speaker 3
All right.
00;32;47;20 - 00;32;48;21
Speaker 2
Well, what is the color?
00;32;49;03 - 00;32;53;26
Speaker 3
What color is the hair of the person who is ruining everything true.
00;32;53;26 - 00;33;08;24
Speaker 2
And you know what? The reason why I think it's not a car person that's in charge of all this is because of that license plate holder. Any self-respecting car person would never put that out, ever wouldn't happen, ever. It's you can't put it on a car. No, I didn't even know they made license plate holders I think. Anyways, I'm not getting back into that.
00;33;08;24 - 00;33;12;21
Speaker 2
I'm not getting sucked back into that. Okay, so let's, let's, let's move on.
00;33;12;22 - 00;33;17;22
Speaker 3
Yeah, we'll move on because I do want to out there's a couple other things for a related that I do want to talk to you before we get to.
00;33;17;23 - 00;33;19;24
Speaker 2
Yeah, let's talk about the actual game. Yeah.
00;33;21;13 - 00;33;31;12
Speaker 3
However, I know that the one conversation that you had about a t shirt was supposed to lead on to a complete corner. Um, okay. Well, I'm.
00;33;31;12 - 00;33;32;27
Speaker 2
Trying to drink my wine now. I'm ready.
00;33;33;01 - 00;33;38;07
Speaker 3
I know you're choking, so. God. And you're pulling out of here. Oh, my God.
00;33;39;21 - 00;33;41;05
Speaker 2
Properly stirred up about that.
00;33;41;05 - 00;33;49;09
Speaker 3
I was going to say, cue the music. Um, do you have music for Complaint Corner? Yes. Okay, cue the music. There we go. It's already. It's already.
00;33;49;09 - 00;33;50;21
Speaker 2
Up. Yes. Perfect.
00;33;50;21 - 00;33;57;14
Speaker 3
Um, so your complaint quarter was very retrospective to the shirt that you were complaining about, which was.
00;33;58;17 - 00;34;17;22
Speaker 2
Well, there are many complaints you can have in this world. Some people get irritated when it snows at the wrong time. Some people don't like driving in the rain. Some people don't like certain aspects of the weather or different things that may occur on a day to day basis. Personally, one word glitter. I hate glitter, man. It is useless.
00;34;17;22 - 00;34;30;26
Speaker 2
It does nothing. It gets everywhere. It's like sand. You can't get rid of it, you can't vacuum it, you can't wipe it up. It's just a door closed. You kick it off in the shower and it drives you insane and it doesn't look cool and it doesn't add anything. But here we are after the Christmas season, cleaning up.
00;34;31;07 - 00;34;46;23
Speaker 2
Ah, the tinsel and the tree and the cards and the amount of stupid cards that we got for $5 from somebody from your aunt on the way to your house and. She got at the drugstore and some piece of crap card that just flaked glitter everywhere. I'm sick of it. We need to ban it. We need to outlaw.
00;34;46;24 - 00;35;06;10
Speaker 2
There needs to be regulations. This needs to be put in the North American Free Trade Agreement. This needs to have economic sanctions. So this is never available in the country again. You cannot sell glitter in this country, in this continent, unless you seal it with some sort of resin. My brother in Christ on.
00;35;06;11 - 00;35;08;29
Speaker 3
Your knee is going to be so bruised tomorrow.
00;35;08;29 - 00;35;29;01
Speaker 2
Bruised from hitting it and yelling about glitter. It's stupid. It doesn't do anything. Nobody has a reason why it does anything. You might as well get a couple of Double-A batteries, stick them in the back of your shirt, put two LEDs on the front of it. It's more entertaining than anything glitters ever done. It's ridiculous. And nobody has an answer that's the big thing.
00;35;29;01 - 00;35;37;06
Speaker 2
Why you like glitter? I don't know. It looks good. You can have many things look good with it. Flaking? Yeah. Like some sort of a dandruff animal.
00;35;37;07 - 00;35;39;04
Speaker 3
I was going to say dandruff is a great one.
00;35;39;04 - 00;35;49;25
Speaker 2
Everywhere, everywhere. And you can't clean it. It doesn't vacuum. It doesn't wipe up. It doesn't it just sticks to you and it's there forever because nobody else will get rid of it.
00;35;49;25 - 00;35;56;08
Speaker 3
Usually those glitter particles are just small enough to get through the vacuum filter. So it just blows all over the house. Yes. And then it gets on everything.
00;35;56;09 - 00;36;16;03
Speaker 2
Then you have glitter house. Yeah. Interest. Nice. It's ridiculous. Ridiculous. And for anybody to suggest that it looks good, it's like the same level of mind numbing nonsense as the $3 firework that you buy from the guy with no teeth at the corner store near your house. And then you light that off. You're like, That was fun. No, it wasn't.
00;36;16;06 - 00;36;34;25
Speaker 2
It wasn't the stupid firework wasn't fun, and neither is the glitter. Enough of it. Stop doing it. Save your money, spend it elsewhere. Ban it, ban it like cigarets. That's my rant for today. I'm going to keep it simple. It's straightforward. My blood pressure is out of control. I need to down this red wine. Thank you. That should help.
00;36;34;25 - 00;36;38;00
Speaker 2
I've heard alcohol helps with high blood pressure. So see how this works?
00;36;38;00 - 00;36;38;19
Speaker 3
Oh, God.
00;36;38;26 - 00;36;39;28
Speaker 2
My God.
00;36;39;28 - 00;36;41;09
Speaker 3
You're probably going to fall out of the chair if.
00;36;41;10 - 00;36;42;25
Speaker 2
You almost did. Actually, you did.
00;36;42;25 - 00;37;01;03
Speaker 3
Almost fall out of that. Sure. Okay. So anyways, getting getting at a complete corner, getting back into motorsport or not motorsport for the. So I do want to talk a little bit about the current season. In the past couple of seasons that have been going on, I, I haven't been too involved in it, and I know you haven't either.
00;37;01;04 - 00;37;21;29
Speaker 2
No, I haven't. You know, we keep track. I've noticed, you know, away from the game. I have noticed an uptick in tweets and posts and stuff. Yeah, it really seems like there's a lot more of an attempt to try to get people on the game. Yeah, something it just. It's not necessarily news or events or anything. It's just little content filler posts.
00;37;22;07 - 00;37;29;16
Speaker 2
There's a lot, right? Like they're tweeting all hours of the day. All hours of the night. You know, I was at three in the morning, just a general. Oh, check out the BMW, whatever. Yeah.
00;37;29;17 - 00;37;51;09
Speaker 3
So, well, they they were doing a lot of family, like I say, family like quote unquote car family stuff like Chevy one. That was a Ford one. That's one, all that stuff. But the one thing I want to talk to is the holiday event. So they have been doing this holiday thing for a while now. There was a holiday one for Horizon four.
00;37;51;10 - 00;38;05;28
Speaker 3
There's the holiday one for Horizon five now where they do something called Secret Santa. And it started in Horizon four, which was dumb. And then they did the same thing in Horizon five, which again was dumb.
00;38;06;05 - 00;38;07;13
Speaker 2
It works, but why is it done?
00;38;07;13 - 00;38;15;01
Speaker 3
Why is it dumb? Okay. Do you remember back in Forza Motorsport four when you could gift cars to people?
00;38;15;01 - 00;38;15;13
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00;38;15;20 - 00;38;33;13
Speaker 3
And you said, Hey, this is a really cool car. I ended up building it. I ended up tuning it. It's it's really good at drifting around whatever track. And I think you're going to love it. You give it to them and you talk to them. You're like, Hey, yo, I'm going to try this car. Sick. Awesome, perfect. So Horizon five introduced gifting again.
00;38;33;22 - 00;38;35;09
Speaker 3
Button is completely random.
00;38;36;22 - 00;38;38;27
Speaker 2
Well, this stupid. It's like a drop or.
00;38;38;27 - 00;38;40;07
Speaker 3
Yeah, this is a car driver.
00;38;40;14 - 00;38;43;11
Speaker 2
It's just like you're donating the car to the poor to someone.
00;38;43;17 - 00;38;57;25
Speaker 3
But it's not even to the poorest, just to some random person. So I could, you know, spend 20 bucks. I could spend a $20 million on a car on the auction house and be like, you know what? I want to be really nice to a friend of mine who hasn't had the time to play this game and get this car.
00;38;57;25 - 00;39;12;06
Speaker 3
I want to buy this car and I'm going to give it to him. And I buy the car and I gift it. And it's just like, oh, congratulations, you sent it to some random person and they already have six of them sitting in their garage and they're going to sell them all for 20 million apiece. And now they're just, you know, hoarding money.
00;39;12;07 - 00;39;29;16
Speaker 2
Now, I think they did that to prevent like fake accounts or whatever bots and just like gifting it to your friends, you know? I mean, just like, have you ever bought account and you have the crap out of the game? Yeah. And then you just gift a bunch of stuff to your main account. I think that's why they prevented it.
00;39;29;18 - 00;39;31;18
Speaker 2
Showed up for his motorsport for everybody did that.
00;39;31;28 - 00;39;32;20
Speaker 3
Everyone did that.
00;39;32;22 - 00;39;42;05
Speaker 2
What's the difference between Horizon for Horizon five, for gifting for like could you could you straight up gift a car from one person to another in Horizon four.
00;39;42;05 - 00;39;55;24
Speaker 3
And so Horizon for it was slightly different because you couldn't gift cars. It was something with events completed or something like that. There was something that you had to do to complete a certain amount of things to get the Secret Santa unlocked.
00;39;56;24 - 00;39;58;22
Speaker 2
Yes, this is for Secret Santa. This is going back to.
00;39;58;24 - 00;40;22;11
Speaker 3
Secret Santa stuff. Right? So there was a Secret Santa thing where it's just like if you if you do this type of thing in first horizon for whatever it is, I can't remember it was too long ago how many years it was, but with Horizon five it was, Hey, if you gift this many cars across the community, not just use it was a community event.
00;40;22;19 - 00;40;28;07
Speaker 3
If you gift this many cars around the community, then you're unlock like an elf outfit, which was stupid.
00;40;28;15 - 00;40;30;28
Speaker 2
That's right. I hate the outfit. I stopped doing that.
00;40;31;17 - 00;41;02;04
Speaker 3
And then the second one was the Lamborghini sedan, Scion sedan, however you pronounce it, Roadster, which. Okay, cool. It's a car that the community has been asking for, but it is locked behind Secret Santa. Now, the odds of us not completing the secret Santa are slim to none. Like there's way too many people playing this game. But the thing that frustrates me is you're just gifting cars over and over and over and over to each other.
00;41;02;29 - 00;41;16;17
Speaker 3
Like, you're just you're going through your garage. You're pulling up to a barn. Fine, because that's where you send the cars from. And you're like, sent. And you go and you filter by duplicates, and you just choose, like, the ten cars that you just received from from car drops. And you're like, I'm going to gift all these away, you know?
00;41;16;22 - 00;41;34;23
Speaker 3
Okay, cool. And then you drive around, it's like, Oh, you were sent a gift, and then you go pick it up and you're like, Cool. I just gave away six of these. I'm going to send it out. And then you just played, you know, car tag and you send cars all over the world to each other and you already have 12 of them in your garage because you've been gifted so many of them.
00;41;34;28 - 00;41;51;09
Speaker 3
So what's the point? I'm like, I'm not excited by these car gifts anymore. Like if someone's like, Oh, someone sent you a gift in a in a barn, like, oh, okay, cool. It's going to be a Ford duly that I have 12 of and I'm just going to sell it. Yeah.
00;41;52;05 - 00;42;10;25
Speaker 2
Yeah. And it goes back to like, God, I hate that we even have to complain about this, but it's like it does suck. I don't want to do that. That doesn't fire me up. No, right. Like it's not going to get me back on the game as somebody who doesn't play at ton and actually has a for the podcast, which is the most bipolar backwards thing in the.
00;42;10;25 - 00;42;11;27
Speaker 3
World, 100%.
00;42;12;07 - 00;42;23;01
Speaker 2
Is quite odd, right? Like that. But I get like I should be the one on there all the time and I'm not. So it worries me. It worries me that who else is in playing right.
00;42;23;01 - 00;42;28;24
Speaker 3
And, you know, when it comes to the to the secret Santa gift car, they did pick a good car.
00;42;28;25 - 00;42;29;07
Speaker 2
What was it?
00;42;29;10 - 00;42;30;21
Speaker 3
It was the scene.
00;42;30;21 - 00;42;31;22
Speaker 2
Right? Sorry. Yeah. Okay.
00;42;31;22 - 00;42;34;07
Speaker 3
Yeah. You Muppet, have you not been listening to the coverage?
00;42;34;07 - 00;42;34;27
Speaker 2
No, no, no.
00;42;34;27 - 00;42;35;28
Speaker 3
I just had with myself.
00;42;35;28 - 00;42;38;24
Speaker 2
No, I just thought this was like a separate thing and it's. Oh.
00;42;40;05 - 00;42;45;26
Speaker 3
No, no, no. So you got this. This Lamborghini Roadster. It's a terrible blown story.
00;42;46;05 - 00;42;46;26
Speaker 2
I don't care.
00;42;46;26 - 00;42;53;07
Speaker 3
Fine. I would have been. I would have preferred the coupe. Honestly, I think the coupe looks better compared to the.
00;42;53;09 - 00;43;02;20
Speaker 2
Yeah, well, no, I agree. Like there's not too many cars where I would go out of my way to pick the Roadster. Robinson Roadster is one where it's like, Yeah, but even then the hardtop still really nice. I know.
00;43;02;26 - 00;43;08;19
Speaker 3
Oh, okay. Here's a question for you. A 911 GT3 or 911 speedster.
00;43;08;19 - 00;43;09;12
Speaker 2
Oh, speedster.
00;43;09;12 - 00;43;10;05
Speaker 3
Okay. There you go.
00;43;10;05 - 00;43;13;19
Speaker 2
Yeah. Speedster for sure. RC, I think you got a different story.
00;43;14;16 - 00;43;15;22
Speaker 3
We What do you mean?
00;43;15;22 - 00;43;21;03
Speaker 2
Like GT3 Yeah, like a regular GT3 versus a GT3. RS I'd probably put the RS.
00;43;21;03 - 00;43;22;14
Speaker 3
I pick the RS Yeah.
00;43;22;15 - 00;43;24;26
Speaker 2
Over the regular GT3. I'd rather have the speed.
00;43;24;26 - 00;43;48;01
Speaker 3
I'd rather have the speedster. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's, that's for you with. But so this is, this was my point when it comes to the cars that people want for the rest of the season, the cars like the seasonal cars, there was the the Cadillac limo, there was the AMC something, the red, the red, white and blue one, whatever that one's called.
00;43;48;14 - 00;43;51;10
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. I don't know the name, but yeah, I know what you're talking about. You picture it.
00;43;51;18 - 00;44;18;21
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. And then the Plymouth Fury that came out, man, I know exactly. But all of the cars are recycled, like we already had them in Horizon four. But what pisses me off is in Horizon four. When we wanted cars like the 48 Pista and the 600 T and the her comp from Monte even the the Gunther works in the singer 911.
00;44;18;21 - 00;44;24;11
Speaker 3
When those things came out, people lost their mind. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Like you would do whatever that's.
00;44;24;14 - 00;44;25;19
Speaker 2
Real thing we do.
00;44;26;01 - 00;44;36;08
Speaker 3
To get on that game, to play it for that week. Because you wanted that car. Mm hmm. I haven't. I've missed the entire season this week or. The entire season this season.
00;44;36;08 - 00;44;36;22
Speaker 2
And it doesn't.
00;44;36;22 - 00;44;57;27
Speaker 3
Bug the entire. It doesn't, you know, like, I logged on to get the the Roadster because it was a secret Santa gift. So you're just going to get it like you don't have to work for it. Am I disappointed that I don't have a Cadillac limo to drive around in Mexico? No. Am I disappointed that I can't put 1300 or 800 or whatever air 12 put in the the Cadillac limo.
00;44;58;06 - 00;45;00;27
Speaker 3
Mm. Kind of like I think that'd be funny.
00;45;01;11 - 00;45;02;08
Speaker 2
It's a meme.
00;45;02;08 - 00;45;02;28
Speaker 3
It is a meme.
00;45;02;28 - 00;45;04;24
Speaker 2
It's not long term.
00;45;04;24 - 00;45;05;08
Speaker 3
It's a mean.
00;45;05;08 - 00;45;08;02
Speaker 2
Car and I got it. I know I'm going to forget about it pretty quick.
00;45;08;02 - 00;45;10;22
Speaker 3
Oh, 100%. It's going to be one of those things like that.
00;45;10;23 - 00;45;16;09
Speaker 2
There's a lot of things like that in the game where the satisfaction level's so short term. Yeah, so limited.
00;45;16;11 - 00;45;29;22
Speaker 3
Yeah. And you know what? Car hasn't dropped the satisfaction levels. Hmm. The new BMW, M4? Mm hmm. That one I haven't dropped. Like, I still drive that around consistently.
00;45;29;22 - 00;45;31;04
Speaker 2
That's becoming one of your regulars.
00;45;31;04 - 00;45;32;14
Speaker 3
That's one of my regulars.
00;45;32;18 - 00;45;35;21
Speaker 2
The sign of a good car is if you stay in it and you play the game, you screw.
00;45;35;21 - 00;45;37;26
Speaker 3
Around and you use it in races.
00;45;38;08 - 00;45;43;06
Speaker 2
Use in races like it's used to be around cards. Yeah, yeah. Right. That's that's a sign of a good car and.
00;45;43;06 - 00;45;45;28
Speaker 3
The BMW M3 Gt's.
00;45;45;29 - 00;45;46;10
Speaker 2
Oh yeah.
00;45;46;23 - 00;45;51;05
Speaker 3
The one with the wing on it. That was orange. I love that car with that.
00;45;51;05 - 00;45;53;03
Speaker 2
An E 93.
00;45;53;03 - 00;45;53;24
Speaker 3
In 82.
00;45;53;28 - 00;45;54;10
Speaker 2
In 90.
00;45;54;10 - 00;45;55;10
Speaker 3
Two know that's like.
00;45;55;10 - 00;45;56;19
Speaker 2
The 2014 ish. Kind of.
00;45;56;20 - 00;45;57;29
Speaker 3
Yes, yeah. With the V8.
00;45;57;29 - 00;46;00;21
Speaker 2
I almost wanted one of those for myself in my life.
00;46;00;21 - 00;46;03;02
Speaker 3
I want I do I do.
00;46;03;07 - 00;46;04;05
Speaker 2
Wealthy but yes.
00;46;04;05 - 00;46;24;22
Speaker 3
Well yeah but that one with the four liter V8. I want one I want okay. I want an E 90 which is the sedan. Yeah. And I want the E 90 sedan with a manual transmission. That's what I wanted because the manual, the manual is so much more reliable than the SMG. A lot more reliable. Granted, the engine's not reliable.
00;46;24;28 - 00;46;44;06
Speaker 3
But anyway yeah we're getting off topic it. The cars that we get excited about when it comes to the festival playlist stuff is the ones that we use over and over and over again. And like you said, the Mashaba ones, the ones that you mess about in after you do a couple of races and we don't have that anymore.
00;46;44;06 - 00;47;00;27
Speaker 3
And that's that's why it's dying. But enough about Forza where we're droning on about well, complaining about the game again, ironically. And there's motorsport stuff that we need to talk about.
00;47;01;22 - 00;47;03;09
Speaker 2
Motorsport news now sport.
00;47;03;09 - 00;47;10;14
Speaker 3
News, you know, the motor like real life motorsport news. I, I want you to go off about Hyundai.
00;47;11;03 - 00;47;37;26
Speaker 2
Yeah, this is interesting. So this is something that kind of developed today. And Hyundai, of all manufacturers, isn't so much rumored. It's kind of confirmed that they have a legitimate interest in becoming an engine supplier in Formula One for the 2026 season. And it's not that it's a rumor. It's that there's money behind this and there's moves that have been made somehow.
00;47;37;26 - 00;47;42;00
Speaker 2
There's there's I have to read this whole big write up or whatever article.
00;47;42;00 - 00;47;42;10
Speaker 3
Yep.
00;47;42;11 - 00;48;05;27
Speaker 2
It's at the point that like they've invested money, they've been doing research and it started like this process has started. It will either be 2026, maybe 2027, but probably the former Hyundai, though, really, I don't know. They run they run in the pilot sport challenge at IMSA. Yeah. Which is the lower levels. But keep in mind, that's the Honda.
00;48;05;27 - 00;48;09;28
Speaker 3
Honda, Honda made Formula One engines and they make Indy engines.
00;48;10;14 - 00;48;12;20
Speaker 2
Mm hmm. But they make Indy engines, dude.
00;48;12;20 - 00;48;14;00
Speaker 3
And it's like, whoa, how do.
00;48;14;00 - 00;48;14;29
Speaker 2
You go from, like, the.
00;48;14;29 - 00;48;18;02
Speaker 3
Red Bull? Formula One was. Was Honda? Yeah, it's a Honda engine.
00;48;18;02 - 00;48;28;12
Speaker 2
But here's my point. How do you go from the scraps of IMSA to the highest, the pinnacle of motorsport, like You don't think you should have left first?
00;48;28;12 - 00;48;29;02
Speaker 3
That's fair and kind.
00;48;29;02 - 00;48;47;22
Speaker 2
Of ease your way into it. Like look at what Andretti Autosport is doing, by the way. They make it a team. We'll see. But how? Like, you know, they're doing it the right way. They're in Indy, they're in rally. They're going to try with this stuff for at least some sort of top level, you know, IMSA, slash WEC, slash, yellow, whatever.
00;48;48;06 - 00;49;09;14
Speaker 2
And then they're going to try F1, they're getting all this backing and whatever. Hyundai like, I don't know, man, that's a big move. It's a big jump work for Honda, which I think would have had a better shot at this. And I mean, that was recent, right? That was oh nine. They backed out. 0908 whatever. Like, I mean, come on, I can't see that working.
00;49;10;03 - 00;49;14;17
Speaker 2
I, I who the hell is going to run that? Like, I don't know, maybe.
00;49;14;17 - 00;49;19;13
Speaker 3
Maybe, maybe this is just like a North, like a Korean power play, but it is.
00;49;19;13 - 00;49;32;17
Speaker 2
What it is. But I just don't know what team like if F1 is expressed that they don't really have much of an interest in expanding the number of teams and and the drivers on the grid and all that. That's fair is fine, right. And if they're going to do it for anybody, it's probably going to be Andretti, right?
00;49;32;21 - 00;49;46;15
Speaker 2
So unless Andretti has something going on with Hyundai, which could potentially be the case now that he's maybe, maybe, but even then, it specifically said engine supplier. Yeah, team, not anything else.
00;49;46;25 - 00;49;47;20
Speaker 3
Just the engines.
00;49;47;20 - 00;49;52;01
Speaker 2
And it just feels a bit like I don't know who the hell is going to run that engine.
00;49;52;04 - 00;50;01;23
Speaker 3
Maybe, maybe the FIA was like, hmm, who's the least expensive manufacturer we can get to produce engines and let's just have them produce engines for every single team.
00;50;01;23 - 00;50;13;17
Speaker 2
Oh, because there's no, there's no reason fear F1 specifically would have any interest in another engine provider like, like they would why would they go out of their way to have they probably one last maybe. I don't know.
00;50;13;17 - 00;50;14;22
Speaker 3
What especially Hyundai.
00;50;15;12 - 00;50;40;20
Speaker 2
Specially. Well they'll take whatever money they can get it's just it's more a bizarre move from Hyundai's part because like, I mean maybe the whole ev side of things for development, but I think every racing fan knows that it's it's when people say, okay, this car manufacturer is here in order to develop their road car engines and road car technology, paddle shifters and all that, you know, innovation, whatever.
00;50;41;03 - 00;50;54;29
Speaker 2
I think every racing or car fan knows that's a load of crap and this is just an excuse to use the corporate money. That's what this ultimately is. And then it's like every once in a while it's like, okay, let's just put this in the car. And that's to justify it, right? Yeah, exactly. This is a fun thing.
00;50;55;01 - 00;51;13;24
Speaker 2
This is screw around money and it's branding, right? Yeah. Ultimately, that's what ultimately legitimizes your brand. Who in the hell is buying a Hyundai because they're in F1? I can see it for Aston. I can see it for a company like Maserati. Maybe if they ever joined, I can definitely see it for McLaren and for Ferrari and for Mercedes.
00;51;15;04 - 00;51;18;11
Speaker 2
It seems a bit odd I think for Hyundai.
00;51;18;11 - 00;51;22;11
Speaker 3
I think you and I both know one specific person that is going to.
00;51;22;12 - 00;51;24;01
Speaker 2
One of our friends with quite little.
00;51;24;09 - 00;51;26;24
Speaker 3
The absolute shit out of this news.
00;51;26;27 - 00;51;30;29
Speaker 2
However, it is a bit insane and it's.
00;51;30;29 - 00;51;31;25
Speaker 3
Still a veloster.
00;51;31;25 - 00;51;33;27
Speaker 2
Dude. That's where they make their money on down.
00;51;33;27 - 00;51;35;11
Speaker 3
It's still a Veloster, I know.
00;51;36;00 - 00;51;44;04
Speaker 2
But they don't make like they make their money off the cheap cars. They make their money off the little stupid silver with cloth seats. That's what they make their money off of. Hyundai.
00;51;44;10 - 00;51;46;06
Speaker 3
What, you mean the Veloster is maybe.
00;51;46;13 - 00;51;57;03
Speaker 2
Oh, interest. Whatever. I just don't get it. And maybe there's more to it. And maybe they're coming out with, like, a Kia Stinger, uh, opponent. I maybe I finally see that.
00;51;57;03 - 00;51;58;04
Speaker 3
I could see that, but.
00;51;58;09 - 00;52;15;01
Speaker 2
I mean, that's an awful big move for one car, even to cars, like a performance ish level for the road. So unless there's some sort of big EV play here, I don't really understand. And who the hell knows where synthetic fuels are going to be in three or four years from now? Right. Ooh, ooh.
00;52;15;01 - 00;52;20;08
Speaker 3
Monkey sounds monkey. Speaking about synthetic fuels, Porsche have filled up a vehicle.
00;52;20;08 - 00;52;23;23
Speaker 2
With this version of the Dacia Sandero, by the way, synthetic fuels?
00;52;23;23 - 00;52;33;22
Speaker 3
I think. So. The Porsche has have filled up a vehicle with synthetic fuels and have run it and it has it's it's driven, it works.
00;52;34;04 - 00;52;35;06
Speaker 2
It's not shocked.
00;52;35;06 - 00;52;55;29
Speaker 3
It works. I'm not no, I'm not very good. But it's it's the fact like this. It's not the it's still technically you're, you know, development stages, but they have tested it in an actual vehicle and it has driven perfectly fine. There has been no hiccups between the transition between your fossil fuel and your synthetic fuel. It's there's no extra parts that you have to add.
00;52;55;29 - 00;52;57;16
Speaker 3
You don't have to change the excuse.
00;52;57;16 - 00;53;02;08
Speaker 2
A long term test they did with it, too, right. This wasn't like they just fired it up and said, all right, all's well.
00;53;02;09 - 00;53;04;02
Speaker 3
No, they drove it around a while.
00;53;04;02 - 00;53;05;07
Speaker 2
Yeah. And this is their findings.
00;53;05;08 - 00;53;21;06
Speaker 3
It was. It was a full tank. Um, good. So it's. It's exciting, but, yeah, there's. There's no issue. This isn't like a dodge demon where you have to spend 45 minutes to an hour and a half changing up the middle. There's no tune. You don't need to change the issues. Or I can put jet fuel in my car.
00;53;22;01 - 00;53;23;20
Speaker 2
No, there's no fiddling about.
00;53;23;20 - 00;53;24;10
Speaker 3
No, you.
00;53;24;10 - 00;53;36;06
Speaker 2
Just more import it at the pumps. This just goes straight. And as we've discussed, it's yeah. All the infrastructure stays the same, but that's good then. That's good. Like, I mean, all the F1 trucks and haulers and whatnot run on that fuel too.
00;53;36;08 - 00;53;36;19
Speaker 3
Yep.
00;53;36;19 - 00;53;39;27
Speaker 2
I think it's a different company. This is the one you're talking about. It's the Porsche, the.
00;53;40;10 - 00;53;41;23
Speaker 3
You know, the one the Porsche has been.
00;53;41;23 - 00;53;48;24
Speaker 2
You know, they've all invested in that Volkswagen. Yeah, there's the scalability now. That's the problem. So we'll see, man. It's just very interesting.
00;53;48;24 - 00;53;56;11
Speaker 3
I'm so excited that the internal combustion engine is pretty much saved now because of this, because of some.
00;53;56;11 - 00;54;08;17
Speaker 2
Things to some degree. And some of the old ones are saved for sure. We will be okay. That is right. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with motorsport when you think about what car they're testing on their just in a Porsche.
00;54;08;20 - 00;54;13;06
Speaker 3
Yeah like because I think it was the GT3 R that they were testing it on and.
00;54;13;13 - 00;54;16;18
Speaker 2
Like you would want to test the three RC twelves.
00;54;17;02 - 00;54;18;15
Speaker 3
Yeah. No I know.
00;54;18;15 - 00;54;21;11
Speaker 2
Let's use as much fuel as we can and going opposite.
00;54;21;11 - 00;54;22;04
Speaker 3
And see what if.
00;54;22;05 - 00;54;25;05
Speaker 2
There's no emissions? Who the hell cares. Yeah.
00;54;26;01 - 00;54;48;15
Speaker 3
But in the topic of internal combustion engines, I'm not too sure if you saw it, but the, um. The engine that Acura is making for the upcoming season from the H, whatever it is, is going to be the OR is rumored to be the last internal combustion engine that Acura will use for motorsport. Period.
00;54;49;19 - 00;54;50;26
Speaker 2
Wow. So that's it.
00;54;51;03 - 00;54;51;21
Speaker 3
That'll be it.
00;54;52;17 - 00;55;05;25
Speaker 2
We'll see how significant that actually is, though, because Nissan used the same engine for 12 damn years. Yes. And they just made different changes to the board and whatever. But it was the same engine more or less. Yeah. But the same in code.
00;55;05;25 - 00;55;10;06
Speaker 3
The it. No, but I mean like the last internal combustion engine for motorsport.
00;55;10;21 - 00;55;18;11
Speaker 2
No, that's what I mean. But like you can say that and then 20, 32 you're still using the same engine. So they made that, that's the last one. But like, you know what I mean? You're still okay.
00;55;18;12 - 00;55;18;21
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00;55;18;23 - 00;55;41;16
Speaker 2
Like, I think this will probably have a long run. This regulation of motorsport is going to be around for a while. Yeah, for sure. So that's sad news. Acura's a bit finicky or Honda slash Acura is a bit finicky when it comes to the top level of motorsport. They're very like. Fairweather Yeah, right. You think about they just joint everything out of F1 all in one day, right?
00;55;41;23 - 00;55;47;06
Speaker 2
And then no. Then they came back to we call it IMSA, Mazda, the same. Remember when they.
00;55;47;12 - 00;55;49;05
Speaker 3
Do. Yeah, yeah. Because they disappeared.
00;55;49;06 - 00;55;52;13
Speaker 2
Finally seeing success in IMSA and they almost won the top.
00;55;52;13 - 00;55;53;04
Speaker 3
Level. Yeah.
00;55;53;06 - 00;55;58;19
Speaker 2
Like they were very close and then like midway through the next season when they were competing, they're like, All right, that's it.
00;55;58;27 - 00;55;59;11
Speaker 3
See you later.
00;55;59;11 - 00;56;07;25
Speaker 2
What are you talking about, man? Like you, you figured it out like Viper did that, but they won like two years in a row or something. Like, okay, like, we're good.
00;56;08;02 - 00;56;10;27
Speaker 3
Yeah, but like, honestly, so close. They had a good team.
00;56;10;27 - 00;56;12;17
Speaker 2
They had the old team, ghost or whatever.
00;56;12;25 - 00;56;38;13
Speaker 3
They like the power move that Bentley did like they came back after one that was years in the though that was the ultimate move. Like they're like, oh yeah, we won Lemon a hundred years ago, so here's our prototype car. And then they won. And then. All right, thanks. See you later. We you know, we did what we came for, like talk about Porsche being power moves when they're talking about the 963, not being worried about the technology that comes between now and the start of the season.
00;56;39;13 - 00;56;41;29
Speaker 2
I have a rumor that is floating about.
00;56;42;03 - 00;56;43;11
Speaker 3
Floating about the.
00;56;43;11 - 00;56;54;23
Speaker 2
Two teams that are in cahoots to join Formula One are Hyundai or two teams, two manufacturers, Hyundai, and the team that is interested alongside of them, Porsche.
00;56;54;23 - 00;56;59;14
Speaker 3
I don't think I don't think Porsche is going to do Formula One. I don't I honestly.
00;56;59;14 - 00;57;00;17
Speaker 2
They've already put the money down.
00;57;00;18 - 00;57;06;07
Speaker 3
No, I know. And they can develop all they want, but I honestly don't think that Porsche needs Formula One.
00;57;06;22 - 00;57;20;29
Speaker 2
I don't either. But they already put the money down and I think they'll be the branding element. So it's possible Hyundai has the power with branding. I don't know what branding does really need to do. I'm reading it's from Sports Insider. No, it's illustrated.
00;57;21;19 - 00;57;42;23
Speaker 3
I don't think I honestly don't think push is going to go into Formula One like is Audi will if you go there if you go the Browning branding wrote Porsche doesn't need any branding they've they have the same look the 911'S been around for 5050 years 50 plus years. So what branding are you going to need to do on the 911.
00;57;42;26 - 00;57;44;27
Speaker 3
I don't you don't why do they do anything?
00;57;44;27 - 00;57;49;06
Speaker 2
Why do they sell jackets for $250? Why do they cause this Porsche to make so many calls? I don't know.
00;57;49;25 - 00;58;20;03
Speaker 3
But this is the thing. So Porsche. Porsche already has this very set brand image where, you know, like you said, the Porsche design stuff is stupid, expensive, and people buy it. People pay for it, but they don't have to be like, Oh, we're a Formula One team, come by the Scuderia Ferrari stuff for $370,000. Like Porsche is just like, Oh, you would like some German glasses, okay, these ones are going to make you see better and this jacket's going to be very comfortable.
00;58;20;11 - 00;58;24;28
Speaker 3
Okay, we charge you a £7,000 and people are like, Yeah, okay, cool, I'll pay for that.
00;58;26;05 - 00;58;40;11
Speaker 2
Yes, I know. I get it. They've got their audience. There's not much more they can do. I understand. I'm just the tweet. It is nonsense. It is true. Okay. Allegedly. We'll see if it's in the Sports Illustrated. It's probably pretty good.
00;58;41;25 - 00;58;44;06
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I Sports Illustrated.
00;58;45;03 - 00;58;55;15
Speaker 2
There's probably something behind it. Yeah. But I mean, it's interesting. That's kind of the news we're going for here. Oh, actually, hang on. I got something for you.
00;58;55;19 - 00;58;58;19
Speaker 3
Yes. Is this is this more about glitter?
00;58;59;01 - 00;59;05;29
Speaker 2
It's not. No, but it's something else. Negative. I know we don't like talking negative stuff, but our only two segments on the show or negative.
00;59;05;29 - 00;59;08;16
Speaker 3
That's fair. Well, even one that's not a segment is still next.
00;59;08;17 - 00;59;11;18
Speaker 2
It's your turn this week. It is everybody's favorite segment.
00;59;11;23 - 00;59;13;12
Speaker 3
Fuck that car, fuck that car.
00;59;13;23 - 00;59;21;17
Speaker 2
So I'm very curious because I like we don't really know what the cars going to be. Sometimes we give hints, you know, sometimes if sometimes.
00;59;21;17 - 00;59;22;01
Speaker 3
We really.
00;59;22;01 - 00;59;31;15
Speaker 2
Do see, we'll talk about it. But I have not asked I don't know what this car is going to be. I usually don't, to be honest, because I like I like the surprise surprises. But what is this car going to be? This week?
00;59;31;15 - 00;59;44;03
Speaker 3
What is this this week? This week's fuck that car is specifically the Hummer H2. Oh, I.
00;59;44;14 - 00;59;46;13
Speaker 2
Yeah, I think the heat.
00;59;46;23 - 00;59;54;28
Speaker 3
Okay, Hummer H2 now. Okay. So the Hummer H1. Yes, the Hummer H1. You got the military thing. You got the Arnold Schwarzenegger stuff.
00;59;54;28 - 00;59;55;13
Speaker 2
Where of how.
00;59;55;25 - 01;00;07;00
Speaker 3
Where of how exactly? Like the people who drive the Hummer, H1 don't drive it for practicality sake. They drive it because it's an absolute nonsense machine and it's huge and it's ridiculous.
01;00;07;00 - 01;00;08;10
Speaker 2
It's an army car. It is.
01;00;08;19 - 01;00;17;11
Speaker 3
But that's that's the reason why they drive it. And they love it because it the Hummer H2 is for the people who want to pretend to be Arnold Schwarzenegger or they.
01;00;17;11 - 01;00;21;07
Speaker 2
Want but they want to pretend it's an Army car, but they want none of like the inconvenient.
01;00;21;07 - 01;00;24;02
Speaker 3
No, they want it to be a luxury vehicle. So it.
01;00;24;09 - 01;00;25;15
Speaker 2
Has airbags. Yes.
01;00;25;18 - 01;00;47;13
Speaker 3
It was like, what, 6.2 liter V8? It weighs the same as most houses is very it's very heavy. It's about as aerodynamic as the the Empire State Building. And it's just or cow. It's it's just as if a as attractive as a cow. Yeah, it is. It's they're, they're hideous vehicles.
01;00;47;13 - 01;00;49;11
Speaker 2
All lifted one there's a lifted one of the stern is.
01;00;49;11 - 01;00;50;07
Speaker 3
They're really.
01;00;50;15 - 01;00;50;27
Speaker 2
Very.
01;00;50;29 - 01;00;52;18
Speaker 3
Oh that's so bad.
01;00;52;18 - 01;00;56;02
Speaker 2
So what's your what's your beef. Is it more with the people and more with the car?
01;00;56;11 - 01;01;07;01
Speaker 3
Oh, it's. Well, okay. Both I have driven one. They're awful to drive. Yeah, I've had to drive. The visibility stinks. You cannot see anything.
01;01;07;06 - 01;01;09;02
Speaker 2
You're driving around an uncompleted house.
01;01;09;02 - 01;01;26;01
Speaker 3
It is. You have no way. Like most cars you can. You have an idea where the front end is. You have no idea where the front end is on a Hummer because as soon as you get within, you know, 30 yards of the car in front of you, it completely disappears. Yeah. So you're like, have I run them over yet?
01;01;26;01 - 01;01;56;12
Speaker 3
I don't know. But yeah, you never know. And then there's the people that drive them and the people that drive them are the most ignorant pieces of shit on the entire planet because they care nothing other than getting in front of you or getting there before you. I have not once in my life have seen a Hummer driver yield or move out of the way or, you know, follow the rules of the road in any sort of way.
01;01;56;12 - 01;02;02;19
Speaker 3
They're like, Oh, I'm turning. Right. Okay, cool. I'm going to turn right. And then everyone else is like, Oh, I'm going to try not to get run over by this brick.
01;02;02;28 - 01;02;06;02
Speaker 2
That is true. It's the worst driver. Yes, the worst drivers.
01;02;06;02 - 01;02;19;18
Speaker 3
The worst the worst drivers drive Hummers because nothing is going to matter if you have the one with the little like the bull bars around the grille in the headlights and stuff like that. That is solid steel, my guy. It's that will I think.
01;02;19;18 - 01;02;20;13
Speaker 2
Is a piece of junk.
01;02;20;13 - 01;02;21;29
Speaker 3
That will take whatever you.
01;02;21;29 - 01;02;28;14
Speaker 2
Want. It did ride like garbage. Yes, it looked like garbage. Yes. Because it looks like the original Hummer looks cool, right?
01;02;28;14 - 01;02;29;12
Speaker 3
It is the end product.
01;02;29;12 - 01;02;40;04
Speaker 2
It's very narrow for what it is. It's still white as hell. Yeah, but it still looks too narrow. They always come in. I hate that stupid yellow, but it comes in to the worst color.
01;02;40;04 - 01;02;44;12
Speaker 3
It was. It was horrible when it was new. It's horrible now. It was built by idiots.
01;02;44;12 - 01;02;44;21
Speaker 2
Or by.
01;02;44;21 - 01;02;51;24
Speaker 3
Idiots. It's like it's a Buick Saber, but it's not. It's a Hummer. It's the same people. The same pride.
01;02;51;24 - 01;02;52;28
Speaker 2
Sucks. I'm with you. It's all.
01;02;52;28 - 01;03;11;14
Speaker 3
Bad. I don't. I do not like the Hummer H2. The H3 don't even get me started on the H3, but the H3 at least size down like the H3 knew that it wasn't actually a Hummer new wasn't actually an SUV. They're like, okay, we're going to make it smaller. And then there was the H3 T where they gave it a truck bed and made it somewhat useful.
01;03;11;28 - 01;03;18;19
Speaker 3
The Hummer H2 is just completely pointless. I hate it. Fuck that car.
01;03;18;19 - 01;03;19;13
Speaker 2
Yeah. I'm with you, man.
01;03;19;24 - 01;03;34;04
Speaker 3
Yeah, I'm with you. I just. I there's still and yeah, the yellow, yellow, dumb, the yellow. And then there was that stupid like volcano, red, whatever, orange shit that was dumb. And then if you get it in black, if you get it in black, then you're like, oh, look at me.
01;03;34;04 - 01;03;45;09
Speaker 2
I got you know, you didn't even touch on it. Is the worst hang on. The worst mud scene in car history, the Hummer modification scene, it.
01;03;45;09 - 01;03;52;00
Speaker 3
Might be it's, you know, who's the worst for vehicle modifications, Hummers and Jeeps. Those are the worst people.
01;03;52;19 - 01;03;56;02
Speaker 2
I think they're one of the same are Hummer drivers. Jeep people.
01;03;56;11 - 01;03;57;15
Speaker 3
Did transition.
01;03;57;15 - 01;04;03;08
Speaker 2
I think. Oh, my God. I never thought about that. I think when you couldn't buy a Hummer anymore.
01;04;03;11 - 01;04;04;20
Speaker 3
They all transitioned to Jeep.
01;04;04;20 - 01;04;05;28
Speaker 2
I think they'd have to be Jeep.
01;04;05;28 - 01;04;07;27
Speaker 3
They all cut their penises off and they bought Jeep.
01;04;07;27 - 01;04;17;26
Speaker 2
But what else are you going to buy that's just as stupid and nonsensical? Like in reality, there's been no other car that can compete with jeeps. Level of idiocy and impracticality as the Hummer.
01;04;17;26 - 01;04;18;13
Speaker 3
As the Hummer.
01;04;18;13 - 01;04;19;22
Speaker 2
So once that went away.
01;04;20;04 - 01;04;21;26
Speaker 3
I guess so. I mean.
01;04;21;29 - 01;04;27;27
Speaker 2
Yeah, I mean, I didn't even think of it like that was not scripted. I didn't even know about that. But that is a very fair.
01;04;28;05 - 01;04;28;27
Speaker 3
That is fair.
01;04;29;02 - 01;04;30;27
Speaker 2
It was just a stupid. I hate that.
01;04;30;27 - 01;04;32;04
Speaker 3
Car. They're so bad.
01;04;32;10 - 01;04;33;01
Speaker 2
Oh, my God.
01;04;33;01 - 01;04;39;14
Speaker 3
There's so bad. Take the pictures away. I don't want to see them anymore. The Hummer hemorrhage. Two are dumb. Hummers in general are dumb.
01;04;39;14 - 01;04;43;13
Speaker 2
They're the electric car like those. But that's a GMC. The GMC.
01;04;43;13 - 01;05;06;00
Speaker 3
It is a GMC Hummer. It's. It's the GMC Hummer, EV. So it's not a brand of Hummer. It is a brand of GMC and it is a subbrand of Hummer that is okay. I'm okay with that because it knows it is a nonsense vehicle and it it embraces the nonsense that I'm okay with that the H2 didn't embrace the nonsense.
01;05;06;00 - 01;05;09;29
Speaker 3
The H2 was like, look at me. I could pretend to be an army vehicle.
01;05;10;21 - 01;05;11;26
Speaker 2
While I'm going to the.
01;05;11;28 - 01;05;26;27
Speaker 3
The GMC Hummer. EV that one is sick. If you want to look it up, look it up. Look at some of the the reviews on it. The throttle house one is is sick. It's it's a really good it's a really good SUV or truck or whatever you want to call it now.
01;05;27;17 - 01;05;44;21
Speaker 2
So, by the way, thousand horsepower, 350 mile range is 0 to 60 under 3 seconds ish. I heard it's ish. I heard like 3 seconds is generous. I heard they're doing it in 2.6. Yeah I've heard that it has ish.
01;05;44;21 - 01;05;46;12
Speaker 3
Anyway I say ish that's, that's.
01;05;46;12 - 01;05;48;22
Speaker 2
It's the heaviest of all the big v6 that's come out.
01;05;48;22 - 01;05;49;03
Speaker 3
It is.
01;05;49;15 - 01;05;51;24
Speaker 2
A Ford and I forget the other one.
01;05;53;16 - 01;05;54;07
Speaker 3
Because no one cares.
01;05;54;14 - 01;06;01;13
Speaker 2
Well there's the stupid cybertruck and there's another one. But I mean the rivian rivian rivian brother. Very nice.
01;06;01;13 - 01;06;02;11
Speaker 3
I'd rather have a rivian.
01;06;02;13 - 01;06;12;22
Speaker 2
That's why he's on paper and functionality and features actually looking into it. The GMC does make the most sense, especially with price. Yeah. Is it across the board is the best one, but.
01;06;12;22 - 01;06;16;25
Speaker 3
It's it's bigger and it's not as attractive as the rivian's.
01;06;17;03 - 01;06;21;28
Speaker 2
I agree, but it's like $30,000 cheaper and it has higher range I believe, and.
01;06;22;04 - 01;06;25;14
Speaker 3
Rivian has better range if you get if you get the extended battery pack.
01;06;25;15 - 01;06;38;16
Speaker 2
Anyway. Well yeah. Well how much is that anyways. We're in a weird time right now, right. There's not a lot of sports stuff going on, but like behind the scenes, it's absolutely there's not a lot for cars. But I mean, this is when cars like launched. This isn't when they're announced.
01;06;38;20 - 01;07;00;02
Speaker 3
We're in the middle of winter. Yes, it's it's January. The cars that are getting announced is like, oh, look at this new all wheel drive variant or whatever. And we're like, okay, great. You know, we live in Canada, thanks. But this isn't like you said, this isn't when things are starting to get announced. I think come February, April.
01;07;01;07 - 01;07;07;06
Speaker 2
Oh, it'll be bumpin man like. I mean, that's read around F1 season starts. Cars are starting to go to Geneva.
01;07;07;22 - 01;07;08;26
Speaker 3
Hmm. Geneva.
01;07;09;02 - 01;07;15;28
Speaker 2
Geneva. Yep, absolutely. Man. There's a lot of big things that happen around the time, but there's not going on with Fords either.
01;07;15;29 - 01;07;20;27
Speaker 3
Let's be honest, I really want to go to the New York International Auto Show. I would love to drive down.
01;07;21;12 - 01;07;25;04
Speaker 2
Okay, so I've heard from a lot of people that Toronto is better than New York now.
01;07;25;04 - 01;07;27;13
Speaker 3
Really? Yeah. Okay, let's just go to Toronto.
01;07;27;13 - 01;07;39;10
Speaker 2
John was supposed to be better than New York and is supposed to be other than Detroit. Detroit's is more about selling like family cars. Yeah, that's what it's become. Yeah. And New York isn't supposed to be as much of a spectacle as Toronto's, for whatever reason, I.
01;07;39;13 - 01;07;42;16
Speaker 3
Well, let's just get a fucking plane ticket and go to Geneva.
01;07;42;16 - 01;07;56;04
Speaker 2
Yeah, Geneva at work? I don't know. Here's a list. I have a list. Oh, no. This is from car and driver. Okay, we don't they're not our friends, but they're whatever I was gonna say, our friends are car driver. They're not our friends. Well, we.
01;07;56;05 - 01;07;58;05
Speaker 3
I enjoyed Car and Driver magazine.
01;07;58;05 - 01;08;00;17
Speaker 2
I mean, you have some nonsense takes from time. They do.
01;08;00;17 - 01;08;04;06
Speaker 3
I like them. They're not like we don't know them personally, so whatever.
01;08;04;11 - 01;08;09;28
Speaker 2
Anyways, this is too long. Okay. Seven cool cars that are finally legal for U.S. import. Now that is 2020.
01;08;09;28 - 01;08;12;14
Speaker 3
I was reading this. Yes. And reading this.
01;08;12;20 - 01;08;21;08
Speaker 2
So the Earth 34 skyline. Yep. In the picture is the millennium jade. Ah, I love that color. That's the best color. Aside from midnight.
01;08;21;08 - 01;08;31;24
Speaker 3
Purple. Okay, that's my face. I'm really glad you didn't say Bayside Blue, because Bayside Blue is way overrated. I know. Honestly, Millennium Jade is my number one midnight purples right underneath. Yeah.
01;08;31;24 - 01;08;32;27
Speaker 2
So those are the two.
01;08;33;03 - 01;08;33;22
Speaker 3
Those are the two.
01;08;34;02 - 01;08;36;03
Speaker 2
Mitsubishi Lancer, Evo five.
01;08;36;04 - 01;08;36;16
Speaker 3
Yes.
01;08;37;11 - 01;08;41;20
Speaker 2
You might remember that car. It was. Do you remember what your was because I don't.
01;08;42;04 - 01;08;44;19
Speaker 3
Uh 19.
01;08;45;03 - 01;08;46;15
Speaker 2
Late nineties I.
01;08;46;15 - 01;08;48;06
Speaker 3
Was going to say it was at 97, I.
01;08;48;06 - 01;08;49;19
Speaker 2
Think. So it doesn't say.
01;08;49;21 - 01;08;50;06
Speaker 3
Okay.
01;08;50;20 - 01;08;57;04
Speaker 2
The Subaru Impreza sti 22 B which personally is my favorite Impreza.
01;08;57;10 - 01;08;59;01
Speaker 3
Yeah, but you're never going to be able to afford one.
01;08;59;01 - 01;09;00;18
Speaker 2
No, absolutely not. There is.
01;09;00;20 - 01;09;02;22
Speaker 3
Over 300 $400,000.
01;09;03;00 - 01;09;05;10
Speaker 2
Quarter. It's a quarter of $1,000,000 U.S..
01;09;05;16 - 01;09;07;05
Speaker 3
Yeah. Okay, there you go. 400,000.
01;09;07;05 - 01;09;21;19
Speaker 2
Yeah. The most recent one sold last year, or at least publicly. $300,000 US as well. It's awful. And it was not at auction. It was not at auction. Oh, so that's crazy. Um, we've also got the Subaru legacy Gtb wagon.
01;09;21;20 - 01;09;22;01
Speaker 3
Yes.
01;09;22;10 - 01;09;46;22
Speaker 2
208 Gorgeous. Gorgeous, really, really cool. Very simple. You know what I mean? It's just a cool Superman that we didn't really get over here. So, yeah, pretty, you know, different than the legacy GTI, spec B I believe it was called, but still pretty cool. An interesting one in this list to me was the Honda Accord. S i r t if I can find any information.
01;09;46;22 - 01;09;51;13
Speaker 3
Those are basically like a Honda civic type. R made into an accord.
01;09;52;01 - 01;09;52;20
Speaker 2
Pretty much.
01;09;53;06 - 01;09;53;24
Speaker 3
That's sick.
01;09;53;26 - 01;09;54;05
Speaker 2
Yeah.
01;09;54;20 - 01;09;55;05
Speaker 3
That's cool.
01;09;55;13 - 01;09;58;08
Speaker 2
Yeah. It's just kind of a spec up.
01;09;58;13 - 01;10;05;17
Speaker 3
Did they, did they make that in an, in a wagon? Because I know that they made. I don't think so. I know they made accord wagons.
01;10;06;08 - 01;10;09;09
Speaker 2
I'm not sure I have a stupid one on the list though.
01;10;09;09 - 01;10;09;24
Speaker 3
Okay.
01;10;11;03 - 01;10;12;13
Speaker 2
Proton Satriani.
01;10;13;09 - 01;10;15;14
Speaker 3
Oh yeah. But protons are cool.
01;10;15;14 - 01;10;16;06
Speaker 2
They're kind of weird.
01;10;16;08 - 01;10;16;24
Speaker 3
The protons are.
01;10;16;24 - 01;10;22;18
Speaker 2
Cool, really neat. It has like the lifted truck kind of bolt on fender, things on.
01;10;22;21 - 01;10;24;10
Speaker 3
The offender flares.
01;10;24;20 - 01;10;26;27
Speaker 2
But there's like the studded look to it. Exactly.
01;10;26;27 - 01;10;27;01
Speaker 3
Yeah.
01;10;27;02 - 01;10;31;20
Speaker 2
And it's just a little hatchback like it's a little stinky car.
01;10;31;21 - 01;10;40;11
Speaker 3
It's funny. I saw it funny. I saw one of those fender flares ripped off and sitting in the parking lot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's hilarious. I love the.
01;10;40;14 - 01;10;42;01
Speaker 2
Most interesting one in this list.
01;10;42;23 - 01;10;44;11
Speaker 3
Is this the R 390?
01;10;44;11 - 01;10;44;24
Speaker 2
Yes, it.
01;10;44;24 - 01;10;45;16
Speaker 3
Is. Yes.
01;10;45;16 - 01;11;04;18
Speaker 2
So nine Porsche and Nissan GTI one cars. Yep. So the Nissan R 390 GTI one that you might remember from four is a it's that dark blue really swoopy looking road slash track slash. We don't know what the hell this is because it never actually entered racing. No. And then the Porsche 911 GT1 tracks the conversion or whatever.
01;11;04;21 - 01;11;09;02
Speaker 2
Lovely, lovely cars, both of them. And they both sound terrific there.
01;11;09;02 - 01;11;11;05
Speaker 3
What, ten, 15 million apiece now?
01;11;11;27 - 01;11;24;06
Speaker 2
Well, there's 25 road legal, the GTI ones, the yeah. The most recent one that sold was last year and it was not at auction but it was for $11.3 million. You.
01;11;24;06 - 01;11;27;13
Speaker 3
Oh, my God. Yeah, that's a lot of money. 10 to 15.
01;11;27;13 - 01;11;30;21
Speaker 2
Dollars is a lot of money. And the Nissan there is not many of those.
01;11;30;21 - 01;11;35;19
Speaker 3
No, I think there's only a couple of them made. One of them sitting at the Nissan headquarters. Yeah.
01;11;35;29 - 01;11;57;24
Speaker 2
Pretty much I think it's it's like five or six. Yeah. It's not many and I think they're all slightly different. There's little different tidbits about each of them, but anyways, I thought that's an interesting list. It's something I always forget about that there's all these cars that exist in Europe that don't exist here, that we're not exposed to very much and we can't really bring over anyways.
01;11;57;24 - 01;12;03;06
Speaker 2
I mean yurts here and there, right? Wagons, uh, stuff like that.
01;12;03;06 - 01;12;09;02
Speaker 3
You know, my favorite in the game, you know, my favorite thing about living in Canada is compared to the states, we don't have to wait 25 years.
01;12;09;18 - 01;12;12;23
Speaker 2
We don't. But we do have to pay through the nose for import tax.
01;12;13;25 - 01;12;37;28
Speaker 3
But we don't have to wait 25 years. Yeah. Okay. You know, you know what I'm waiting for. And this is this is going to be nice and quick. I want to finish it off on a high note. Okay. Because we've been here for a while. I am very excited to be able to import the I think it's 2009 2010 Audi Rs6 Avant because those had the twin turbo V ten.
01;12;37;28 - 01;12;40;24
Speaker 2
Yeah, they were really nice and that was an r8v.
01;12;40;24 - 01;12;46;07
Speaker 3
Ten, it was the R8 v ten with one two turbo strapped to it in a station wagon.
01;12;47;03 - 01;12;50;04
Speaker 2
Station wagons of course per that I'd take it naturally aspirated.
01;12;50;12 - 01;12;50;29
Speaker 3
I yeah.
01;12;51;03 - 01;12;55;22
Speaker 2
I mean either way I'm happy about that. No that's a car we miss out on so much. Wagons.
01;12;55;22 - 01;12;56;18
Speaker 3
Oh, so many.
01;12;56;18 - 01;12;59;08
Speaker 2
Oh my God. I'd love to see that it's ever been in a forcing.
01;12;59;08 - 01;13;04;25
Speaker 3
You know, the standard the standard sedan is the same engine. Yep.
01;13;05;18 - 01;13;24;20
Speaker 2
The wagons, cooler wagon. There's something. A little bit of that Cadillac limo. Yeah, there's something a little bit about that when you got a really fast wagon in the game, it's like, practically nonsensical. Oh, well, how to describe it? I could do that as, like, an everyday kind of car. I couldn't do it the nicer the Cadillac and, every mission and every.
01;13;24;20 - 01;13;28;10
Speaker 2
You know what I mean? Bombing around the back roads in the game. But I could do a nonsense wagon.
01;13;28;11 - 01;13;29;27
Speaker 3
I could 100% be lovely.
01;13;29;27 - 01;13;30;12
Speaker 2
It's so people.
01;13;30;13 - 01;13;35;16
Speaker 3
E63 Wagon rs6 Wagon c3507. Wagon oh.
01;13;35;17 - 01;13;57;00
Speaker 2
Give me that look. That one up, folks. That's a take on my car. But all right. 507 wagon, I think, often gets forgotten about in place of maybe some of the E-Class wagons that have come about. But it's sweet, man. Like that's a real nice car. Any of the C 63 wagons but specifically that one was nice. Just remember there was no black series wagon.
01;13;57;04 - 01;14;22;00
Speaker 3
Do you remember in Europe, they we didn't we never got this in North America. They had the generation of the I think was the E 60. I could be wrong, but it was the M5 with the V ten and they made it in a state state version of it. So you could have that BMW with that wailing v ten in a wagon.
01;14;22;00 - 01;14;24;19
Speaker 2
Did you ever see the pickup truck version?
01;14;25;13 - 01;14;26;23
Speaker 3
They made a pickup truck version.
01;14;26;23 - 01;14;29;09
Speaker 2
Oh, God. It was just I mean, this is that we're going to leave.
01;14;29;09 - 01;14;30;15
Speaker 3
Oh, no.
01;14;30;25 - 01;14;35;12
Speaker 2
It is something else. So they made an E 92 pickup truck.
01;14;35;21 - 01;14;39;03
Speaker 3
Oh yeah. That in 92. Yeah, I saw that. I think you're talking about the M5.
01;14;39;04 - 01;14;43;02
Speaker 2
No, I don't believe they've ever done an M5. Okay. The M3. They did do a pickup. The pickup.
01;14;43;02 - 01;14;45;01
Speaker 3
Yeah. Which was. That is pretty cool.
01;14;45;23 - 01;14;53;29
Speaker 2
Yeah, I like that because they did an old one, they did an old pickup, uh, whatever that is. And E30 yep. E30 pickup was cool too.
01;14;54;05 - 01;14;55;26
Speaker 3
Yep. You throw in 92.
01;14;56;04 - 01;15;06;21
Speaker 2
That's that's my tidbit for today if you weren't aware of that. Yes, they did. I don't know if it was an April Fools or why they did that with E 92 specifically. But it was pretty neat. And it's just.
01;15;06;23 - 01;15;08;03
Speaker 3
You know, I would buy one.
01;15;08;24 - 01;15;19;23
Speaker 2
I absolutely would buy one. I would love to have. But anyways, I don't know. That's all we got for this week. That's it's a pretty fluffy week. Sorry for the absence as usual.
01;15;20;01 - 01;15;25;09
Speaker 3
But good times. We have a life we're not, you know. And until.
01;15;25;09 - 01;15;29;08
Speaker 2
There's been nothing really too pressing and yeah, I.
01;15;29;08 - 01;15;30;17
Speaker 3
Don't know. I was going to say we like to.
01;15;30;17 - 01;15;31;16
Speaker 2
Leave it for one show.
01;15;31;16 - 01;15;45;23
Speaker 3
Until there's something, you know, big or crazy that pops up. Like if we get a bit of information that's just, you know, we're both talking to each other about consistently, that's when we'll do, you know, a big recording and do it right away and as quick as possible. But there hasn't.
01;15;46;04 - 01;16;05;00
Speaker 2
No has been any, I think interest just in-car stuff too. So I think we'll probably bring the the weekly or biweekly back. Yep. And the next little bit. But but that was the reason for that. So we hope you enjoy this episode. Yeah, we know you didn't enjoy the last episode. We didn't enjoy that. Yeah. Listening back to it was a bit of a stinker, so that's fine.
01;16;05;06 - 01;16;05;25
Speaker 2
We'll make it up.
01;16;06;02 - 01;16;08;15
Speaker 3
We brought the energy back and episode 11 did.
01;16;08;15 - 01;16;24;04
Speaker 2
We did a complaint about some glitter. Yeah, the merch. You'll see that on the Instagram, too. We're going to be talking merch. The next little bit is going to be pictures of 2023. It's going to be a great year. It is the 10th year for the world, which is pretty crazy. Say not until December, but it is the 10th year.
01;16;24;04 - 01;16;27;06
Speaker 3
Yeah, the anniversary is December 23rd.
01;16;27;24 - 01;16;52;03
Speaker 2
Yes, December 23rd. So we've got a ways. I mean, myself personally, I started doing the fourth of photography right around now. It was very early January and go back and check the date. But I originally the account was just something under my name and then it got changed to for as a world officially on December 23rd. So anyway 10th year big stuff come in for sure.
01;16;52;11 - 01;17;06;20
Speaker 2
Well, I know I know I can't wait for the racing season the start to get the car back out of storage, get some needs, get some cool stuff going on. We have some more time this year, some races after the show, a lot to look forward to. A lot of really fun stuff to look back on as well.
01;17;06;20 - 01;17;07;02
Speaker 3
But yeah.
01;17;07;12 - 01;17;18;13
Speaker 2
Yeah, we will we will be back. We may be back in the next little bit. Talking some trash talking some cars. Yeah. All right. Well, this has been episode.
01;17;18;13 - 01;17;19;19
Speaker 3
So thanks again, guys.
01;17;19;21 - 01;17;47;16
Speaker 1
And everyone came back with well, I how you.